What's up with the ammo shortage?

[kmcconaughey]

Cathleen, done.

 

[cmcleod]

THANKS Kraig!!

Cathleen

 

[digger]

 

[mgwin]

Jeremiah,

Loss of freedom in prison?
Three meals a day, free room and board, don't have to work, lay around and watch TV all day, free dental, free medical, free clothes-maybe not designer, but free, don't have to wash dishes or clean clothes, just sit back and be lazy all the time........
I know they can't go where they want to, but look at all the free stuff they get without working! I have to work for what I get and have to pay for mine along with the high cost of insurance that doesn't want to pay anything when I need it.
I have heard of people intentionally committing crimes in order to get to go back to prison.

 

[elincoln]

Someone was selling signs at a recent auto swap meet. The sign says: CAUTION due to the current price of ammo do not expect a warning shot!

 

[mhomrighausen]

Finally some common sense is being shown and someone is doing their part to help with the shortage. Make every bullet count.

 

[jchamberlin]

Marty: It was late, I was tired, and I probably should have refrained from posting. I hear what you're saying about prisons, that is, that they are not punishment; but please hear my point, they weren't designed originally for punishment, but for the forceful rehabilitation of "penitents." The walls are there to force the conversion and contain any damage to the greater society in the meantime. Some souls just fail to "get with the program" so-to-speak. Some prisoners, I understand, even break the rules so as to earn solitary confinement and thus get out of any work details. I simply can't account for some human behaviors.

Some countries are more intentional about punishment, cutting off a hand for stealing, stoning women for adultery (men are often viewed as the victim of the woman's wiles), I suppose castration would be an option for rape. I find it significant that most of these countries do not have a Christian heritage, while many of those which have backed off the death penalty and other "punishments" for crimes do share a Christian heritage.

As far as crime and punishment, there seems to be a lot of emphasis these days on getting justice for the victim. The trouble is, some victims are never satisfied! The law, in my view, should try to fit the punishment to the crime, setting a "eye-for-an-eye; tooth-for-tooth" standard to keep things from getting out of hand. In the best cases, judgement can even be tempered with mercy. The goal is, or should be, in my opinion, restoring the order to the community that the crime violated. That is, the crime breaks the peace, justice is executed, and peace is restored. Ideally, the restoration includes the offender (the offender is brought back into the community), but if that doesn't work, the offender is excluded (kicked out of town). Prison is a means of excluding someone until such time as they can again be included.

Charlie: Your graphic depicts the uncontrollable pressures that can develop when religion and politics are brought into close proximity. However, I would contend that each will inevitably seek to influence the other. Throughout most of human history each has sought to support the other in the interest of building a strong, cohesive culture for the tribe, the city-state, and finally the nation. The American experiment sought to change that dynamic and to separate them into their own spheres of influence. Because both religion and politics speak to the nature of the human condition, and because each seeks to influence current and future human endeavor, there is always going to be a conversation with "static" around the edges. The genius of the American experiment is that it seeks to "limit the damages" by not allowing either one to get the upper hand.

Marlin: I fixed my YouTube connection and enjoyed your video links, it's been a long time since I'd heard either song; they brought back a lot of memories. I find it impossible to explain the 1960's to someone born in the 1980's --perhaps sharing the music is the best.

I hope everyone soon gets enough ammunition and the panic buying stops so that business can get back to normal.

 

[lbuttke]

The only time I ran into a ammo shortage was last fall, I had the opertunity to harvest 5 white tail deer, but only had 4 rounds of ammo for my rifle at the time.
Sure the store shelves have less ammo on them now, but by this fall I should be able to find enough rounds of ammo for my hunting rifle to be able to carry 5 rounds of ammo just incase I ever get that opertunity to havrest 5 white tail deer at one time again.

 

[mgwin]

Lonny,

Don't do it!!! In our state you can only shoot two in a day. I have popped two at one time before, and it was rough skinning them suckers out by myself. If you shoot two or more, you better have some help!
As for the ammo, you can just about go any where and buy ammo for deer rifles. The shortage is on handgun ammo, 22's, and any caliber that is considered "assault rifle" ammo, along with all reloading supplies.

 

[mgwin]

Speaking of ammo shortage, it's turkey season tomorrow. All I need is one #4 shot high brass 12 gauge shell in my Winchester model 12!

 

[lbuttke]

Marty.

Lucky here I guess, as you can shoot as many as you have tags for in one day.
That and how many you can skin out befor the next day hunting starts.

 

[mgwin]

Lonny,

Shoot three in one day, skin them out by yourself, and tell me what you think then!

 

[nbartee]

Just got back from the Dallas Gun Show. It was standing room only. The line to get in was two blocks long, never saw so many people. If you didn't understand why there is an ammo shortage, attend one of these. A normal box of 9mm I used to buy for $10 went for $40, anywhere. People were buying guns right & left, definitely a sellers market!

 

[mgwin]

Norm,

Sorry to hear it is crazy in Tx.
I think the pandimonium may be subsiding around here. I found some handgun ammo at Wallyworld in Va. It was the Tulammo brand. They had some 9mm for 10.37/box, and .380 for 14.97/box.
I would say after what happened today, the heat on guns and ammo may subside for a little while.
I feel for those innocent people in Boston.

 

[lbuttke]

Marty,

I have done just many different hunting seasons, most I ever put in my freezer during Wisconsins deer hunting season was 8 total.

 

[mgwin]

Lonny,

How many have you skinned out at one time?

 

[lbuttke]

Marty.

These are what where hanging in my barn by 10am opening day last year.
They where all skinned and quartered by 10 pm the same day.
The hide comes off realy easy when they are still warm.
Back when my oldest son and I hunted together we would have a deer skinned and deboned in 2 hours time, now I hunt by myself and it takes me a bit longer.

Now I have to find a place to replenish the 4 120 grain 270cal hunting rounds I fired last fall so I have plenty of ammo for this comming fall.

 

[digger]

 

[thoffman]

Getting back to guns again. WTF is the story on .22's. They're alomst the same cost of 9mm's now. I can remember when you shoot all day for 5-10 bucks.

 

[lhinds]

Tom I was at walmart last week and there was 22 amo there but limited to one box of 250. 22 long rifles Remington, and was selling them for 11.82 per box. I was at walmart in Boone Iowa 2 months ago
and a box of 50 was 3.85.