Archive through November 21, 2011

[dross]

Kraig, nope, I didn't even own a plow then.

 

[tstewart]

Matt dont judge anything other than the position of the holes in the driveshaft on the old clutch, its toast and mostly loose. The throwout is entangled with the first couple broken turns of the spring... its just loose and flopping around now:


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By Matt Gonitzke (Mgonitzke) on Monday, November 21, 2011 - 07:56 pm:

Tristan-

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If my 1/4" difference measurement is correct that still puts the pins barely flush with the other side of the clutch disk. Where does a clutch normally sit on the pins? I dont remember what they looked like before. The 1/4" just doesnt seem like thats enough. Also it seems the new shaft is cut off right after the pin hole, whereas the old shaft had like an inch of shaft beyond the pin hole, which makes up for most the gap between that ball bearing I think. How important is that? Is there really any lateral movement in the shaft that the ball bearing is preventing normally? Guess I'm still kind of foggy on what that is doing.</font>

 

[digger]

Tristan S.
The drive shaft for your 1000 should be 19.16" long, before you cut it off for the creeper.

 

[tstewart]

Charlie my stock shaft does match that.

Just went out to the garage to take some actual measurements. Set the shafts parallel to my one square on the floor butted up against the wall and set my other square to come straight up 90* to get the position. Stock shaft was ~19 1/8, the scribe mark at 14 1/2 and the pin hole 13 5/16 on center. On the new clutch the driveshaft is 13 5/8 long and the pin hole is 13 1/4 on center. So the length of the new shaft from the front to the rear coupler pin hole is 1/16" shorter based on my last measurement. That doesnt sound like enough difference to make the clutch not even sit on the pins? I did take the driver off and put it back on I didnt loose some spacer or something did I?

And the new shaft has a much shorter protrusion from the rear pin hole back, which accounts for the huge gap around the ball bearing in my photo. Its about 13/16 shorter out the back. How important is that? Is there really axial forces along the shaft that need stabilized by the ball bearing...? I'm still a little foggy on what that does.

 

[mgonitzke]

Tristan-

There is an axial force applied to the shaft every time you disengage the clutch, so you need the ball bearing.

Did you have the engine mount rails out at any time? It's almost as if you have the mount rails in backwards (not sure if that's even possible) which could put the engine too far forward, causing both problems you are having.

 

[dfrisk]

KRAIG - YES... Dave was who I was thinking of. Just like Dan H, He could plow without wheel weights TOO! I seem to remember he had a trailer load of stuff at the PD.

It's funny, When Dad retired he started looking for gardening attachments. He bought the plow I have for either FIVE or TEN Dollars at a yard sale. But without the IH 3-pt and sleeve hitch adapter he couldn't get it to work to suit him. He gave it to me one day. I set the plow on the garage floor behind the 72 sitting on blocks under the left side tires and created my sleeve hitch. I used all kinds of scrap steel, didn't have to buy anything and welded it all together and I think it works pretty good.

Now with the popularity of PD's they're back to bringing $50 to $100 again.

Dad eventually ended up with a really nice all original 129 & tiller that he gardened with. That tractor got used almost as much as ALL his other CC's & LoBoy's were used every summer combined.

 

[tstewart]

Matt, so when you push the pedal its pushing the driveshaft back gotcha. And no, motor has never been out since I have owned it. All the mounts look fairly new and tight and no rattles or anything.

Well sounds like I got to give the folks at MWSC a call and see if they can make it right.

Could another short piece of shaft cut to the right length be placed in along with the ball bearing as a spacer?

 

[digger]

Tristan S.
It would have been a lot easier if you would have bought from Cub Cadet Classics since Chris used to be a puller and KNOWS and SELLS what you needed.

 

[tstewart]

Perhaps Charlie, but I would have thought MWSC would have known what they were doing too... But I wont say anything bad about em until I see what they say on the phone. Still working on my gosh darn (paraphrased) ball joints and tie rods on the truck. Just got back from my 8th trip to the parts store, 3rd trip just for one tie rod sleeve that NAPA keeps having the wrong parts in the package. Not been a good week. Was looking forward to trying the new clutch out this week... I'm going to be up on the farm tonight through monday, was going to use it in the woods a couple days getting firewood, and for doing some hunting since I'm too cheap to own an atv. Those plans are shot. My 129 has the gear box on it and turfs all around. I'm not going to swap gearbox and tires this close to leaving.

 

[mhomrighausen]

Last Thursday after work Ryan McShane and I took a little trip to Boone and picked up his 126 roller and mower deck.

The deck is in great condition.

A very happy young man with a great score.

Fancy had to check it out.

Fancy didn't think that I needed to be in the picture.

 

[rbeem]

Um MWSC Knows their parts, trust me.
I'm Pretty sure I delevered a huge pile of door prize goodies they donated to the last Rockford Plow day, so I would not be so fast to bash them.
This is a custom project and requires some preparation and measurement to get everything in order.
Call Them, they will help.

 

[trutherford]

A drive shaft for a (582) (1606) in between the drive shaft and the creeper gear is their supposed to be a ball that keeps the driveshaft from sliding back and forth if soo what size ball is that between them. The ball should be hidden by the rag joint under the casting.

first time working on this wide frame stuff used too the narrow frame clutches
thanks for the help

 

[ljones]

Marlin, Ryan has a NICE find I see it has a pto also what are the plans for it?


It has been raining here the last few days, and I have had the flue but all better now. I got my 122 out and was doing some yard work and decided to drive through the corn field for a shortcut everything was fine until I looked over and my back right tire sunk and the tractor bottomed out on the trans big mess it's in the barn now but it is covered in mud the Carlisle tru powers and v61s worked well up untill that point.

 

[ralbert]

The answer to my question is yes...works fine

 

[mhomrighausen]

Lucas J. Ryan's home in Springville for the holiday. He's currently looking for a twelve horse engine to bring the little guy back to life. On the way back through Boone, we went through a couple of alleys pretending that we were Frank & Mike of American Pickers looking for Cub Cadets. We did spot a nice looking IH 1200 four wheel drive pickup that I may have to check out the next time that I am in Boone. Ryan called "Kitty Dibbies" on the pickup. And a newer style Brinly disc alongside a building. No one home at either place.

 

[ljones]

Marlin that is nice that he will bring it back. Are those mf rims?

 

[mhomrighausen]

Lucas J. We're pretty sure they are. He's bringing a set of Cub rims up and then he's going to sell the MF rims. He's keeping the tires though. They are in really good condition yet.

 

[fcurrier]

Marlin: Here's one for ya -- a friend brought me a copy of Farm Show newspaper today (from Minnesota

) A guy in California powered a 125 with a 60hp jet turbine engine. He reduced the 52,000 rpm's to 3600, but I guess it shows what the Sunstrand trans will survive??

 

[sblunier]

How long ago was Plow Day #1???

Well, now I have to FOLLOW "Little" Steven......

....instead of HOLDING him, like at PD#1....

...He was only 2 months old at PD #1, and now he's almost 11!!!!

 

[sblunier]

.....and a few shots from the neighbor's Cessna 182 in 2010