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Greg Lippert

Those tacks are simple to use,even I could get my tractors running at 3600 with that. And the price was right a $8.00 shipped I think.

Kraig
I use big washers to get my PTO aligned.They work great.I did buy two of the brass buttons just in case lol.
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Harry,
My dad and I decided to change the oil in his truck one day and it took taking the pan off to get it out! LOL

As far as the oil in the 1450 and others. There's just no need to. It's been in there for years and still looks pretty descent to me. Besides, the Cermax does well enough that I'll never worry about them anyway.

What sold me was that fact that years ago, we took my first Cub Cadet saw out of the box for a demonstration. We mixed the Cermax in two 5 gallon cans and gave the saw to the people there and 7 cords of oak logs and said burn it up.
Well after 6 hours and 10 gallons of gas, it was still running and is still running just fine today.

So I don't think I'll be changing the way I or they operate anytime soon.
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Harry B.,
Yes, it's an original 128 seat pan. I had a local auto upholstery shop to cover it for me.

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Bob P.,
Make sure you have tight(snug)connections and clean terminals after you check Frank's suggestion.
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BTW,
You guys were talking about ZDDP levels in oil the other day. I contacted Havoline (now owned by Chevron) and they informed me that Havoline 30wt has 1100 ppm zinc. The 30wt is still being made, but you will probably have to get an auto parts store to order it.
 
GARY S. -
Thanks for the info on the Cub Cadet driveshaft fan retaining/snap ring (part no. 916-3001). It's a big difference between the same internal size hardware store snap ring. The CC part is 40% wider and twice as thick, so no wonder it is tough to spread open. My wife had to help me push it over the plastic hub. But now that it is on, the fan doesn't budge. Well worth the $2 I just paid my local CC dealer who had a bag of them.
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There is a correct and incorrect way to install a snap ring.

The flatter of the two sides aways goes against the gear/bushing/fan. Look at Roy's picture of the skinny snap ring. The bottom is the flat side which would go against the fan ( in this case ).

I always thought it didn't matter but a co worker's Dad is a retired mechanical engineer and explained it's stronger ( & stays in place better )with flatside against the item it's to hold in place.

Jeff
 
Roy: "My wife had to help me". God bless their souls, they're handy to have around, sometimes, aren't they? (I'm thinking of the 3 hands it takes to put a bowl gasket on a Walbro carb).
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Why edit, unless it's for a misspelling? Did I misspell misspell?
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David's sending more rain down, now. "Send 'er down, David". All the Cub Cadet garden tractors are under cover. The pride of the fleet (Lucy, our 7275) sits out there with the Jeeps, weathering the storm.
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Gerry, Do you have any other photos of that PO seperated set up?

Its got me wondering how it worked and if it worked?
 
Bob Proctor: Was it a dead battery? WTF happened?
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Ready?
Don and Gregg now have these:
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I'd really like to add one of these to the list of tools that I have but really don't need. I've got an old dwell tach that's doing quite well on the 8 cyl scale (hooked to ground and the - (points) side of the coil).
 
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When you get a few minutes, Google The Desert of Maine.
but I digress:This is what I started out to look for:
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I think I got the last one available. Howsomever, it's not copyrighted.
 
Frank, those tachs work great. I bought one last year and set all my engines up. Also checked it against a few vehicles with their own tachs and they work great. Anyway, I seem to keep breaking a roll pin on my 149's rockshaft. Is it common to break them when you have the plow on with the pin in for downpressure. The pin that holds number 24 to the rockshaft on the pic. I'm not far from welding it all together. There is no slop in the holes and I wasn't beating the tractor at all. Is it a common thing to break that with the lockout pin in. And yes, it was the spirol roll pin. Tonight was the first time I ever had it out. Then again in 10 minutes. Thanks, Nick
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JEFF D. - Flat side vs. Rounded side makes sense to me. However according to the Service Manual this snap ring doesn't get pushed so far onto the hub of the fan that a side will touch anything. The only area of this snap ring touching the fan part is the inside of the ring. In any case I'm looking at the CC snap ring (I bought four) and both sides are equally flat.

FRANK - Yes, Debra comes in handy at times. I tried asking my yellow lab Holly for help, but she gives me quizzical looks and doesn't have opposable thumbs.
 
Success

I got that PTO off that had the stripped out set screws. A 13/64 ( .203 ) cobalt drill ( running extremely slow ) and ten minutes of my time did the trick.

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Then it was time to remove the bearing on the ecentric. I forgot my nice bearing puller at work and I had a moment of brilliance
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Two 1/2" sockets ( 3/8" drive ) onto the my homemade flywheel puller I made the other night using the two 5/16 -18 x 2" long bolts removed it quite easily.
 
In a situation where the snap ring is seated in a groove. the flat side faces out, as it takes more displacement to get it back out than the side with a chamfer on the edge..

Jeff:
Not at this point, I'll see what I can do - but AFAIK, he disconnected the neutralizing linkage interconnect to the hydro
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Roy,
Nice comparison photo on the retaining ring. I couldn't get closer than 3" for the close up. What camera/lens did you use?
 
Another question (in reference to my last post) are those roll pins 5/16" diameter? The pin that holds number 17 to 19 was broke also. Nick
 
Greg L, Frank C - ok, I give up - where do you get one. Looks like it might be easier to read digits rather than deciding where the harmonic vibration is perfect on the one I have.

Marty G - thanks for the added pic. That is one nice looking 128. I'm really impressed with the paint and details, the alignments, etc. Can you provide some details of how you did it and what you used (paint, any NOS parts, sand blasted, just roughed up, etc - your method and all the tricks).

Nick H - I've never even seen that particular roll/spring/spirol pin break before. I do know it's usually harder than whatever to get it out. But I need to add I never have used down pressure either, but having restored many Cubs I think I would have seen at least one with a problem. Lets see what others pipe in with.

Gary S and Roy N - had similar experience with the snap rings. Ruined at least 3 standard snap ring pliers. Had to borrow a 12"er from work to have enough umpp'. Don't know which side I put towards the fan - BUT I ain't changing it now, whew.

Jeff D - did you happen to rotate that ecentric lock on the bearing before using the puller?

Hydro Harry
Old Cubs Never Die (always use digital snap ring tach pliers for best results - hehehe)
 

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