Archive through January 18, 2010

[digger]

I was gonna post something profound but I decided instead to steal Art's old sig line in this case.

Never miss a good chance to shut up!

 

[kmcconaughey]

 

[jdiederichs]

Kraig,

Bring on some snow, I agree! My snow tractors need the work. Looks more like a rain/snow forcast this week

Frank L, be careful with a double pulley design, it's easy to exceed the bearing capacity of an electric clutch due to that. Just sayin...

 

[kide]

Brad:
I think I've had worse than normal luck with the PTO buttons, either because of a little drag in the clutch that I wasn't paying attention to, or ??? Any way, I've used a brass button for a few years, but even that will chew up if the matching "nose button" on the PTO is rough. Again the only time there should be any contact of that button with the <u>spinning</u> "nose button" on the PTO is when the PTO is spinning down, or if you engage slowly...
If I understand your question, the collar goes on first, then the bearing, which is supposed to be close to the end of the crankshaft..

Here's my latest buttons (from a couple of weeks ago)

 

[pbell]

Brad,
I never worked for IH, but have done a lot of research on IH, especially on the Louisville Works and Cub Cadet's.

 

[T-Mo]

Charlie,
Art's old quote is a good one, and one I should have heeded to several times in the past.

 

[dross]

Kendell, You use screw heads to make the new buttons? Wouldn't that promote wear by reducing the contact area?

 

[bjrainey]

Kendall,
Thanks I don't know whether or not I want to try and tackle that PTO or not. I would like to get everything fixed on it beofre I let it go, but I don't think it would be cost effective.
Probably better off selling it as is. It also has issues I think with a valve or something.
It runs, but makes a pecking up on top near the exhaust port or in that area. It is more than I can handle I think. I haven't been inside of any motor before. Well I did take the head off and put a new gasket on once, if that counts.lol

Paul B.
My Dad has a few IH Farmalls. A Super A, My Grandads C, 2 H's and an M.
I remember as a little guy riding around my Grandad's farm on "the Big tractor"lol. It looked big to me.

Brad

 

[mbounds]

Dave R: If you think about it..how much contact area is there involved between two rounded objects. Almost none. Just the tiny point where they touch. The real secret is the use of different metals. With a steel thrust button and a brass or bronze wear button, they work very well because of the differing molecular structure of the metals. Whereas like metals will grind each other down..

Myron B

 

[bjrainey]

Kraig M
I was in Colorado in the Maroon Bells area that summer of 2005.
The sheer magnitude of those mountains really humbles a guy. They also helped bring healing to me trying to make sense of my sons death. I remember sitting on a ledge and wishing my son was there to see it too. You could see for miles. At that moment my oldest son came up to me and saw that I was sweating from my eyes, and said "Nick sees it too, but from a higher vantage point". Kraig, your brother and Dad do too. Where ever you go, they are with you watching from a higher vantage point,
Brad

 

[kide]

Dave:
Like Myron says...
See my original thread from a few years ago here, where I used a brass pipe plug.. Jerry Harvey suggested a bolt back then, I'd kept that in mind and recently picked up a couple of bolts in one of the "classic" hardwares in our area that have anything from a Sun Tach sender box (from the 60's) to custom cut and threaded pipe..you walk sidways through the aisles in this place

I paid almost as much for the bolts as CCSpecialties gets for the finished brass buttons and then spent a couple of hours turning them, so I'd be better off sending for them, except for the "mental health" refresh I get from turning metal on that little lathe. (I may have my Sears/Atlas 6x18 going in a few months, look out then!! (cannons anyone??...)

 

[dtanner]

Well I had abusy day.

But I hope this is over now and we can move on to bigger and better projects. I will have seat time this week and I will start my O next week. by Friday I should have my V61s for a tractor I have here and have lots to do here,.
Thanks so much to all who post here caus that what makes this place great. I know lots just lurk

and thats cool caus they will learn like I did, and I think that is what we are here for also.

THanks To all for putting up with me ....... Later Don T

 

[jdiederichs]

Hi Charlie,

Regarding Art's old sig line, wouldn't that make it kinda....(drum role )....

ART Appreciation Day here at the forum?!?}

 

[bbrigham]

Geeze...Don't show up for a few days and look what happens...glad I wasn't involved...

Scott Stanton..Yep, still have it. If you need it you can have it, I'd rather see it used than be sent to the crusher.

 

[bjrainey]

Kendall,
In the picture of the brass button in your lathe.
Is that a Unimat lathe? Kinda looks like one we had set up to do gun work with. Actually we had two, one was set up as a milling machine.
Brad

 

[glippert]

Brad R - I was in the same position a year ago - never been inside an engine. But these old Kohlers are made for people to learn on - it's tough do too much wrong. Pretty basic stuff. Heck, I even bought cylinder hone and a valve lapping tool & compound, rather than pay the local small engine guy to do these easy tasks. The only tricky part for me was getting the valve spring keepers off and back onto the valve stems. Turned out my brother has a tool just for that, so it was a piece of cake. I also took a lot of pictures to look back at in case I had any problems getting it back together (I didn't) and for clarifying any questions you may have. There's still an awful lot I don't know about engines, but I'm glad I took it on. Keep your service and parts manuals handy as you go, and I have no doubt you can do it. And yes, changing the head gasket was a great first step!

 

[kide]

Brad:
Yup, SL1000, very well equipped.. Dad bought it from a friend of mine about '79 - I inherited it. I've used it for making a few small Cub parts, but it's really more of a model maker's machine. Funny thing - my wife just showed me on that same guy's Facebook page, he just bought an 8 foot bed Logan from the now torn down Oldsmobile plant here in Lansing...from one extreme to the other..

Brad:
Really, those PTO clutches are pretty hardy - if you can get a replacement thrust button and the wear button, and the rest of the parts aren't worn too badly, the worst part is getting the six set screws out and getting that thrust collar positioned correctly (oh and you'll need the adjustment template to set the spring tension screws at the right height)...

 

[bjrainey]

Greg Thanks for the encouragement.
I don't know, seems scary to me.
My luck, the head would come off up through the hood or something.
I don't know if you remember it or not, but I darn near ran my 1450 thru my shed last winter.
I attemped to take the play out of the Hydro cam plate and linkage and put that little snap ring back on or so I thought
Took it out for a spin feeling rather smug about my accomplishment. Opened up the throttle and give 'er full speed ahead. Ran around the field a few times bouncing along and apparrently did enough bouncing for the cam plate to slip off the shaft. Turned it back towards the shed, and when I got close to the entrance, stepped on the brake thinking that it would stop. It didn't stop. Hit the wall and my grandaughter's new bike. It didn't hurt the tractor but it trashed that bike. That is my luck.
It cost me more to fix my fixins than what they are worth.
Brad

 

[dross]

Kraig, Myron, Kendell, Thanks for the response.
Kendell, that is a pretty cool little lathe.
<font size="-2">This thanks is just that, no hidden meaning, no snide remark or dig, I just ment to say thanks.</font>
If the forum is for Art appreciation, Charlie, are you eligible for fedral funding.

 

[bjrainey]

Dave,
The last time I saw federally funded art, I did this

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