The Franken 169 Project

[Stephen Wattley]

Ok so the end of the 1200 overpriced cub. Now i found a so carfully maintained 169 IH cub that has been garage kept, has A huge snow blower that i think rarely used. It has some kind rear disk brakes. I have a complete set of old mauals even one for the snow blower

 

[Stephen Wattley]

Here a pic

 

[danderson]

That looks like an AQS air cleaner. Does it have a starter generator on it?

 

[JPrattico]

yeah, something's off. What's the serial number? Is the tag on the left side of the frame or on the back of the rear axle?

 

[Stephen Wattley]

yeah, something's off. What's the serial number? Is the tag on the left side of the frame or on the back of the rear axle?

2050048u519117 he has this written in the owners manual.

 

[bwstevens]

Will the ring gear flywheel fit in a wide frame ?

 

[JPrattico]

lets see.....

205 = garden tractor

0049 = model 169

u = made in USA

519117 = July 1974 build date


I think I got that right... It is indeed a 169, although the engine may not be original to the tractor...

 

[Stephen Wattley]

lets see.....

205 = garden tractor

0049 = model 169

u = made in USA

519117 = July 1974 build date


I think I got that right... It is indeed a 169, although the engine may not be original to the tractor...

What is diff about the engine you see

 

[danderson]

It has an AQS air cleaner. AQS engines were used in Quietline tractors. Does it have a starter generator on it?

 

[JPrattico]

what he said, does it have the starter/generator or does it have just a starter?

 

[Stephen Wattley]

Does this pic help? I need to pick it up this week end still.

 

[JPrattico]

You definitely have a later Kohler k341AQS engine in there. Not the original k341. The original would've had a starter/generator, but as that picture shows, there's just a normal starter. The coil is also mounted above the starter, it would've been mounted on the other side of the engine originally.

 

[Stephen Wattley]

I just notice this he ha hand witten on the original manual

 

[Stephen Wattley]

Is this a better engine than the original. Will it npt have the vibration issues

 

[kphill]

I have a 169..They are sought after by the tractor pulling crowd as you can overbore them and they will put out like 22 horsepower and put them in the 16 horse class and no one knows you have an advantage.. It looks to me like they got to that one.. That looks like they replaced the engine with a AQS engine which is a good engine, but I would stay away from it as it is a frankentractor...

 

[dschwandt]

For sure an AQS
Next question, is it for sure a 16HP
What type of engine mounting does it have
Should be bolted directly to the frame w/no ISO mounts.
Did the seller make mention of an engine swap??
Sure hope you did not overpay for a cobbled 169!

 

[kphill]

If the owner says it has been in his family its whole life and he says that is the original 169 engine then he is bull****ing you.. I would not walk away from that tractor I would run...

 

[gpapa]

At the right price, it might be worth having. Maybe if you want to just use it and have no plans to resell it? Any trans creep or excessive trans noises? Trunion good? Compression test, smoking?

Are the mufflers still available for the original Kohler 16 HP engines?

 

[PACub100]

 

[danderson]

Charlie had mufflers made but he said they’re gone and there’ll be no more.