Ok Marty ,you commented on new post,here it is just finished and first run worked fine..Daughter wanted to try hill gardening...Old iron 70-75 M.Wards tractor,3 sp. added 16 hp briggs a few yrs ago..First time the machine has actually been worked,just been to a few shows...Snaps just a little with a straight pipe pulling home made hiller..old disc blades a little extra iron and a bit of welding..I wonder what one would cost today??