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Getch357

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Hello all so i am brand new to the forum still trying to figure out how and where to post to get results. That being said I have a 1972 Ih cub cadet 127 hydrostatic tractor with a sears suburban bucket loader on it. have spent quite a few dollars replacing main parts and now I did something stupid and lent it out. well, they put it back instead of telling me it was there they just parked it in my tent and left it...well I found out why 6 weeks later when i needed it...now 1st off I don't use this a lot but when needed it's there. (so, i take it out and have to pump up tire which by the way is new) so after about 4 mins tire is dead now this may sound stupid but please keep in mind im a newbie all the way around never had any kind of tractor growing up or even as an adult until moving here and buying stuff so im not sure if the dead tire is causing the issue or something else so it's weird because it's like all of a sudden my steering wheel is free floating but not turning the wheels so I look at it and as your sitting on it it's the left knuckle it has a type of steering it comes from the steering wheel and goes down the shaft connects to a gear and there are 3 rods 1 come from gear to top of knuckle and the other comes off bottom of knuckle and goes over to right side to steer that wheel now as I was looking at it I noticed a bolt sticking out of top of knuckle and i tried to turn it. it was what i thought was loose and after trying to turn which it did freely i tried to pull it and low and behold it comes right out but looks to be sheered in half end still in knuckle i know I'm not using correct parts but hoping you all can follow along here. so what I'm needing is info on how this steering actually works how to take knuckle apart (because ive been told i may have to drill it out because there are threads on part that's stuck inside!! so 1st off can a flat tire cause this type of steering to stop working so wheels will not turn?? and how do i take this apart to fix this...now please keep in mind I'm a newbie and a gulf war veteran with p.t.s.d so it may take a little explaining for me to get it :) I am attaching a picture of the knuckle as I'm referring to it. Thanks for any and all help and please if I'm posting in wrong place someone please explain how to post on this site and where to post. thanks again
 

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It sounds like whoever used this unit really abused it and maybe ran into or over something??
1st off, I'd get on their case right away and find out just WTH happened!

Loaders are VERY HARD on these little machines unless you have power steering.
One cannot overload them and expect them to steer without difficulty.
Sound like the coiled pin that connects part #8 (steering arm) & #6 steering knuckle) to the axle is sheared off.
The pin is not shown and is a 5/16" coiled Spirol pin.

Or it could be that whoever cranked to hard up against the stop in the steering gear and busted the side out of the case.

This should explain a lot to you if you study it a bit.
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.PS, a bit or punctuation in your posts would be greatly appreciated, very hard to follow.

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It sounds like whoever used this unit really abused it and maybe ran into or over something??
1st off, I'd get on their case right away and find out just WTH happened!

Loaders are VERY HARD on these little machines unless you have power steering.
One cannot overload them and expect them to steer without difficulty.
Sound like the coiled pin that connects part #8 (steering arm) & #6 steering knuckle) to the axle is sheared off.
The pin is not shown and is a 5/16" coiled Spirol pin.

Or it could be that whoever cranked to hard up against the stop in the steering gear and busted the side out of the case.

This should explain a lot to you if you study it a bit.
.
.PS, a bit or punctuation in your posts would be greatly appreciated, very hard to follow.

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It sounds like whoever used this unit really abused it and maybe ran into or over something??
1st off, I'd get on their case right away and find out just WTH happened!

Loaders are VERY HARD on these little machines unless you have power steering.
One cannot overload them and expect them to steer without difficulty.
Sound like the coiled pin that connects part #8 (steering arm) & #6 steering knuckle) to the axle is sheared off.
The pin is not shown and is a 5/16" coiled Spirol pin.

Or it could be that whoever cranked to hard up against the stop in the steering gear and busted the side out of the case.

This should explain a lot to you if you study it a bit.
.
.PS, a bit or punctuation in your posts would be greatly appreciated, very hard to follow.

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Thank you, DSchwandt for replying. I know my punctuation is not great. Maybe as a result of my p.t.s.d I have a tendency to try to get things out all the way before I forget them! Lololol. As far as lending anything out ever again it won't happen! On to the problem you are right so the pin that goes into the hole at the bottom of 8 has been sheered, my issue is I don't know how to take it apart do you just take the nut and bolt off of the rod at the end of 8 and it just lifts off? The pin appears to have threads on the other end and that's what I'm trying to figure out. I am hoping by taking #8 off I can access that part of the bolt and maybe just take it out with pliers. Im not sure and again very new to these things and trying to take something apart to fix it when you have no idea what you are doing can be an issue. One thing i asked and I'm not sure of would a flat tire on the opposite side cause this steering issue? or am i just hoping and reaching? lolol. Thank you for the illustration it is very helpful. Is there anywhere on the site or elsewhere I could find the illustrations for the whole tractor? that would help a lot! This tractor I believe I found out is a 1972 and she cranks right up every time I need her, will never lend her out again I have a lot invested in her and don't plan on losing any of it again. Thanks for your reply it's appreciated :)
 
It sounds like whoever used this unit really abused it and maybe ran into or over something??
1st off, I'd get on their case right away and find out just WTH happened!

Loaders are VERY HARD on these little machines unless you have power steering.
One cannot overload them and expect them to steer without difficulty.
Sound like the coiled pin that connects part #8 (steering arm) & #6 steering knuckle) to the axle is sheared off.
The pin is not shown and is a 5/16" coiled Spirol pin.

Or it could be that whoever cranked to hard up against the stop in the steering gear and busted the side out of the case.

This should explain a lot to you if you study it a bit.
.
.PS, a bit or punctuation in your posts would be greatly appreciated, very hard to follow.

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DSchwandt, hello again, I'm sorry thought of another thing that is Happening. When I turn the steering wheel, it moves the top on #8 however the other or bottom part #6 has a bar #5 that goes across to the right front wheel. it moves forward and back but the right front wheel does not move, this is also the 1 with the flat tire at present. I am not sure, but I believe this has rack and pinion steering?? Would it be possible that I have to adjust the spacer nut that's there to make it move the steering on the right side?? Any info would be great. If there is a page that goes along with these illustrations that names the numbered pieces that would be Fantastic if someone could post it here for me.
 
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