Don, I believe the reason the PTO levers get bent out like yours is, is when they are moved far forward to install or remove a belt per the manual (see below) and people get over zealous in their flexing the handle out to bypass the engaged notch.
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Sorry but I disagree with Harry. The screw must be tight. There is a bushing in there and a spring. The lever rides on the bushing and the spring pushes the bottom out and then in turn pushes the top in (into the indexs).
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Don - I wasn't giving or deducting points. Only judges do that. And my geese are all lined up to make a swoop over your place in Nova Scotia. They have been known as the Quacky Dive Bombers. Oh, and by the way, see below please.
Tom - I beg foregiveness in the error of my ways. You are correct. There is a bushing behind the screw and the screw does need to be tight. My memory is failing and reverting to experiences when proper parts were missing, dropped on the floor or unknown to me. Thanks for correcting my info.
Don T - make sure that screw is tight when you done doing what ever it is you decide to do.
Tom - I beg foregiveness in the error of my ways. You are correct. There is a bushing behind the screw and the screw does need to be tight. My memory is failing and reverting to experiences when proper parts were missing, dropped on the floor or unknown to me. Thanks for correcting my info.
Don T - make sure that screw is tight when you done doing what ever it is you decide to do.
Kraig-
Thanks ; I see where I need to bend the lever to get it so it will use both indents in the bracket on the tower. I will make a card board pattern first . I have found going willey nelly and making it work, lets just say a pattern will save the time too make one. I see in my post where the lever is bent out some.
Harry ;
Those would be Canadian geese ? I do like to have some fun with you . It is all in good fun . We are not one here ; we are all.I had a good day here. I painted my foot plates on the 125 and adjusted the steering . Now just the hydro to park break adjustment to do.And bought a 12 k engine for another tractor. Seems I will have every Cub running . I will be happy to finish this 125 so I can paint my 1961 original. I dare anyone to buy 14 Cubs and make them all work as they should; and tell me it don`t take time and $$.
Thanks ; I see where I need to bend the lever to get it so it will use both indents in the bracket on the tower. I will make a card board pattern first . I have found going willey nelly and making it work, lets just say a pattern will save the time too make one. I see in my post where the lever is bent out some.
Harry ;
Those would be Canadian geese ? I do like to have some fun with you . It is all in good fun . We are not one here ; we are all.I had a good day here. I painted my foot plates on the 125 and adjusted the steering . Now just the hydro to park break adjustment to do.And bought a 12 k engine for another tractor. Seems I will have every Cub running . I will be happy to finish this 125 so I can paint my 1961 original. I dare anyone to buy 14 Cubs and make them all work as they should; and tell me it don`t take time and $$.
Paul, I tried the 7/8" rubber rollers, that I got off E-bay from a vendor in MA, on the 125 and it puts the hood darn near right up against the cowl, so that can't be right.
Anyway, I brought this to the attention of the vendor and suggested he get some made up with 1-1/8" dia. rollers and he just wont hear of it stating what you just said about the part numbers being the same from the 70 upwards.
I think he is assuming they were all 7/8" regardless. Granted, I only have the 3 NF's for reference here.
I'm coming from 40 years worth of Chrysler 300 car Club nit picky experience here on concourse details, so please bear with me.
I'd sure like to see a show of hands here as to how many member tractors are out there in these series with a break down per model listing which kind/size and material (rubber or steel) that they have on them. Maybe then can we/I arrive close to a date (concensus) at which IH changed from steel to rubber and whether there are more that one size (OD) rubbers used.
More fuel for the concourse correct police I'm afraid!! ha ha!!
Dave S.
Anyway, I brought this to the attention of the vendor and suggested he get some made up with 1-1/8" dia. rollers and he just wont hear of it stating what you just said about the part numbers being the same from the 70 upwards.
I think he is assuming they were all 7/8" regardless. Granted, I only have the 3 NF's for reference here.
I'm coming from 40 years worth of Chrysler 300 car Club nit picky experience here on concourse details, so please bear with me.
I'd sure like to see a show of hands here as to how many member tractors are out there in these series with a break down per model listing which kind/size and material (rubber or steel) that they have on them. Maybe then can we/I arrive close to a date (concensus) at which IH changed from steel to rubber and whether there are more that one size (OD) rubbers used.
More fuel for the concourse correct police I'm afraid!! ha ha!!
Dave S.
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Don T - yes, it's all in fun, and yes those are Canadian geese. And when you take that handle off make sure you don't lose the bushing. I think you'll see you don't need a pattern for a new one. You should be able to just flatten it out. They are usually just bent a little right above the big hole for the screw and bushing, but I think yours may also be bent about the mid-point of the bottom shaft as well. Also, I'm glad to hear you finally had a good day (you were really overdue). And as for 14 Cubs, I could do about 2 per year, so that'd be 7 years of fun!!!! Hope you had alot as well.
David S.
Let me guess! LOL
I'm betting that it was that no good POS not.e.nough.
Here's a quote from the email I sent to the dumba$$,
From: "Digger" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:08:51 PM
Subject: Re: Reporting intellectual property infringements (VeRO)
I'm not the one that HOT LINKS to others websites and steal information to profit from it.
And I'm also not the one that screams like a freakin little girl over the phone when they get caught! LOL
BUT I am the one that called the states attorney general today and they are sending me a complaint packet to file with the state on you, snicker!
Let me guess! LOL
I'm betting that it was that no good POS not.e.nough.
Here's a quote from the email I sent to the dumba$$,
From: "Digger" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:08:51 PM
Subject: Re: Reporting intellectual property infringements (VeRO)
I'm not the one that HOT LINKS to others websites and steal information to profit from it.
And I'm also not the one that screams like a freakin little girl over the phone when they get caught! LOL
BUT I am the one that called the states attorney general today and they are sending me a complaint packet to file with the state on you, snicker!
I'm glad we have ole Tom here to keep us straight. He's straightened my butt out more than once.
To keep totally OT Don and Harry, technically it's "Canada Goose" or Canada Geese". Canadians are people from Canada.
To keep totally OT Don and Harry, technically it's "Canada Goose" or Canada Geese". Canadians are people from Canada.
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David S.,
I have two 70's and three 100's and they all have the metal 7/8" rollers on them.
I am going to take a stab at it and say the rubber ones came about the time of the 72, 104,105, 124, and 125. These are the next series after the 71, 102, 122, and 123. This is also the first series to introduce the fiberglass dash panel instead of the metal dash tower. I am not 100 percent on that, but that's as far as I can go with the info. Paul Bell or some of the others can enlighten you more. As for those on Ebay.....be very sceptical and "do your homework"!
PS: My dad has a 122 and he put the rubber ones on his, and they don't look right.
I have two 70's and three 100's and they all have the metal 7/8" rollers on them.
I am going to take a stab at it and say the rubber ones came about the time of the 72, 104,105, 124, and 125. These are the next series after the 71, 102, 122, and 123. This is also the first series to introduce the fiberglass dash panel instead of the metal dash tower. I am not 100 percent on that, but that's as far as I can go with the info. Paul Bell or some of the others can enlighten you more. As for those on Ebay.....be very sceptical and "do your homework"!
PS: My dad has a 122 and he put the rubber ones on his, and they don't look right.
David S - I just did a walk thru my lineup of a original, 2 70's, 4 100's, a 72, and 3 73's. Looks like the roller break up is between the 100s and the 72 - I don't have a 71 (YET!!) but my 70s and 100s have metal rollers and my 72 and the 73s all have rubbers.
Charlie: Ya must have a crystal ball up there somewhere burried in the snow banks!! Ha Ha!!
Don and other clutch lever practitioners.
Here's your spring and spacer. These are on my 70 and I need to find 2 more of each cuz the 73 and the 125 are both missing them and I have the same problem as Don on both of those rigs.
The spacer is: 3/8"ID x 1/2"OD x 7/8" long
the spring is: 1-9/16" long x 3/4" OD and takes about 35# of pressure to compres it as measured on the bathroom scales.
Gonna look-see at TSC tomorrow and see if I can locate some.
Dave
Don and other clutch lever practitioners.
Here's your spring and spacer. These are on my 70 and I need to find 2 more of each cuz the 73 and the 125 are both missing them and I have the same problem as Don on both of those rigs.
The spacer is: 3/8"ID x 1/2"OD x 7/8" long
the spring is: 1-9/16" long x 3/4" OD and takes about 35# of pressure to compres it as measured on the bathroom scales.
Gonna look-see at TSC tomorrow and see if I can locate some.
Dave
Terry-
The part list for the Original !
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I think your missing some parts .
The part list for the Original !
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I think your missing some parts .
lpalma
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A few fun facts...
The 70-123 have a different shaped pto handle than the 72-125.
The spring and spacer was used on the Original with the pto option, 70,71,72 and 100 and fits over the bolt.
On the 102-125 the spacer fit inside the handle and was secured with a pan head phillips,there is no spring.
Going to Maine on wed.Frank where you at?
The 70-123 have a different shaped pto handle than the 72-125.
The spring and spacer was used on the Original with the pto option, 70,71,72 and 100 and fits over the bolt.
On the 102-125 the spacer fit inside the handle and was secured with a pan head phillips,there is no spring.
Going to Maine on wed.Frank where you at?
lpalma
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Frank...
Not going that far.
Tom...
all of the 4 125's I have and 6 I used to own did not have the spring.
In my parts book it is listed as not used .
Not going that far.
Tom...
all of the 4 125's I have and 6 I used to own did not have the spring.
In my parts book it is listed as not used .
lpalma
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Who me? I'm working at a friends house and it just happens to be on the way.
I will see if there is a spring on the pto handle...
I will see if there is a spring on the pto handle...
Does this mean I don't get to go to TSC this morning???
Dave
Dave
