Archive through March 14, 2015

[jbbaker]

My brother in law has a 1650 that he has installed a IH tiller on. He tried it out the other day and then gave me a call. (He lives in another state.) He asked me which way the tines should rotate. I don't have a tiller on any of my cubs so I told him I don't know but I would assume that they turn in the direction of the forward motion of the tractor. He said that's what He thought but his are turning the opposite way. I checked some posts on the forum and they all seemed to indicate this forward motion. People talked about the tiller pushing the tractor. I told him to check to see that the belt wasn't crossed and to see which side the tines were sharpened on. He said the belt was right and the tines were sharpened for the reverse rotation. I told him to try and see if it would work. He later reported that it works good. Does anyone know what is the proper rotation?

 

[digger]

Jack B.
Yes the turn the direction that the tractor moves going forward.

If the tines turned the other way, all you would do is dig a ditch the width of the tiller, LOL

Of course after it built up enough, you would probably have have nice little berm's on each side. Of course the dirt buildup between the tractor and the tiller would get into the gearbox belt and ruin it.

 

[jbbaker]

Charlie,
The question is why are they turning the other way and why are the tines installed for the reverse rotation. Without being able to see this in operation , I can't see how they would rotate backward.

 

[jbaker]

I am having trouble understanding how they could turn backwards

 

[digger]

If you put twist the belt 180 degrees, it will turn what ever backwards.

If you twist it 90 degrees, it takes the slap out and makes the belt tighter on stationary stuff, like corn grinders/shellers mills and the like.

 

[jbbaker]

Counter rotating tillers are available and have certain advantages. They are more suited to hard soils and of course wouldn't push the tractor. Some users on the forum have reported that this a problem with hydros. I was just wondering if the PO was somehow able to convert to counter rotation. He reported that the belt was not rotated and that the tines were positioned for counter rotation. Has anyone heard of doing this
with a IH tiller?

 

[nbextermueller]

I think it might be best if you have him send you some photos of the set up and then you can post them up here. I think there is a twist in a belt somewhere. Or somebody messed with the gear box and added another gear, but that's highly unlikely. I bet his "right way" to install the belt under the tractor is to have a twist in it.

 

[jbaker]

yep now I understand

 

[jbbaker]

I'll see if he will do that. He might not won't to mess with it though because he said that it was working great, just a little slow. He is working a virgin plot in New Mexico so the soil is hard. When I asked him if the belt was twisted between the mule drive and the 90 degree gearbox, he said no that the belt was too short to go on that way. I think he had tried to twist it at first in order to get the rotation the way he thought it should go.

 

[ecaye]

Hi everyone
Can someone tell me where I can buy HY-tran fluid?
Thanks

 

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Ed C.
Any Case IH dealer carries Hytran.
If you have one close, take jugs with you and ask to buy bulk.
It's cheaper that away.

Or click a sponsor button or 2 above and get it.

 

[sblunier]

You may be able to reverse the gear box (pulley on left side, and then flip the big pulley on the tiller to the left side....that would reverse it......

 

[jbaker]

Ed, try
Woodbury Tractor Co.
1514 Main Street North
Woodbury, CT, 06798

Josh you asked about the 169 (Raggady Ann) going to plow days, I think Ill retire her for now, not moth balled, just relaxing

I need to someday think about a second rear lift as it will be a pain to switch from the 149 (tired) tiller tractor to the new 782 dirt/snow plow tractor.

The loader is under some extra bracing work right now

 

[joligschlaeger]

Last summer I purchased a SGT and was looking for attachments and new uses for it.

Today I purchased a PTO and Cat point for it, problem is everything else is still on this 982, and of course it's an Onan engine.

Decisions, decisions!

 

[nbextermueller]

Steve, that's what I was trying to envision when I mentioned applying an extra gear. I even went back 2 pages to look at the tiller photos to see if the 90' box could be flipped. Your absolutely right. I bet a PO converted it to spin reverse by relocating the tiller wheel and spinning the gear box.

Man your a smart cookie...

Joe O, I'm confused. The 982 is a SGT. So you are saying you now what 2 SGTs and can't figure out which one to completely deck out?

 

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[lhinds]

Jack I think you will need to unbolt the tiller tines and change sides with them if you get the tiller turning in the forward direction. That would put the sharpened side cutting the soil. The tines may have been reversed when assembled. This could be the reason the tiller has been set up to run backwards.

 

[lhinds]

locateballbearings.com is a web site I have had good luck with. They will also buy surplus bearings from you.

 

[jharvey]

On the reverse rotating tiller..also check the belt under the belt guard.

 

[dschwandt]

Jerry, I doubt if there is room to twist that on. It's hard enough to get it on the right way!!