Cub Cadet 147 Refurb/Mod

[Craig Kelley]

A few cuts marked up to accommodate the new engine:

I'll break out the plasma cutter for this, although I think I ran out of plasma... I'll get a new bottle on Amazon.

 

[1811Cub]

I'd be curious as to what the peak torque rating is. That is more telling than the HP rating.

 

[Craig Kelley]

I'd be curious as to what the peak torque rating is. That is more telling than the HP rating.

Hey 1811Cub-- Here are the general specifications of the DuroMax XP18HPE:

Displacement 439cc
Fuel Type ≥87 octane, ≤10% ethanol, unleaded gasoline
Dry Weight 77 lbs
Maximum Torque 27 ft. lb @ 2500 rpm
Compression Ratio 8.5:1
Bore X Stroke 92 mm x 66 mm
Engine Oil Capacity 37.2 oz. (1.1 L)
Fuel Tank Capacity 1.7 gal.
Lowest Idling Speed 1800 rpm ± 300 rpm
Dimensions LENGTH 20 in.
WIDTH 18 in.
HEIGHT 19 in.
Engine Type 4-Stroke OHV Forced-Air
Ignition System Non-contact transistor
Lubrication Mode Splash
Starting Type Electric / Recoil
Shaft Rotation Counter-clockwise
Shaft Size 1” diameter, 2-3/4” long, 1/4” keyway
Shaft End 3/8” size 24 UNF - drilled and tapped
Center of Shaft to Base 5”
Bearing Type Stainless steel ball bearing
Cylinder Sleeve Type Cast iron sleeve
Fuel Delivery System Carburetor

 

[mgwin]

If you are considering cutting notches in the frame, you might want to beef it up around those cuts so the frame won't be weak there.

 

[mgonitzke]

If you are considering cutting notches in the frame, you might want to beef it up around those cuts so the frame won't be weak there.

This, and also make sure the corners of the notches have a radius and are not a sharp square corner.

 

[rfunk]

Hey 1811Cub-- Here are the general specifications of the DuroMax XP18HPE:

Displacement 439cc
Fuel Type ≥87 octane, ≤10% ethanol, unleaded gasoline
Dry Weight 77 lbs
Maximum Torque 27 ft. lb @ 2500 rpm
Compression Ratio 8.5:1
Bore X Stroke 92 mm x 66 mm
Engine Oil Capacity 37.2 oz. (1.1 L)
Fuel Tank Capacity 1.7 gal.
Lowest Idling Speed 1800 rpm ± 300 rpm
Dimensions LENGTH 20 in.
WIDTH 18 in.
HEIGHT 19 in.
Engine Type 4-Stroke OHV Forced-Air
Ignition System Non-contact transistor
Lubrication Mode Splash
Starting Type Electric / Recoil
Shaft Rotation Counter-clockwise
Shaft Size 1” diameter, 2-3/4” long, 1/4” keyway
Shaft End 3/8” size 24 UNF - drilled and tapped
Center of Shaft to Base 5”
Bearing Type Stainless steel ball bearing
Cylinder Sleeve Type Cast iron sleeve
Fuel Delivery System Carburetor

Is that correct, max. torque is at 2500??? I don't remember the numbers right now, but Kohler's is definitely at higher rpm, and I think, subject to verification, that it's higher, too.

 

[1811Cub]

From Cub Cadet FAQ :

The BIG K341(16hp) peak torque is 28.25ft lbs. @2600rpm with max. brake hp 16@3500rpm torque is 23.5ft. lbs.

 

[charles germer]

thnks for the work posting,loving all the old school engine lathe work

how do you plan to reinstall or mod the cooling fan on that honda clone

 

[Craig Kelley]

thnks for the work posting,loving all the old school engine lathe work

how do you plan to reinstall or mod the cooling fan on that honda clone

Hey Charles-- I might mount an 8"-9" fan blade on the front side of the motor, but I haven't looked closely enough at the original internal DuroMax fan (which may be more efficient at cooling than anything I could mount externally) to determine.

 

[Craig Kelley]

Here's the completed adapter/connector for the DuroMax flywheel to CC147 hydro input shaft. This is straight off my lathe and mill (I actually TIG welded [with no filler rod] on the lathe to assemble while machining) and hasn't been thread-chased, de-burred, fully/finish welded, etc... Fits perfectly!

With the positioning of the new engine and the length of the adapter I won't need to cut/resize the CC147 hydro input shaft.

 

[Redneckracers11]

Are you planning to put a PTO on it? Looks great so far

 

[Craig Kelley]

Are you planning to put a PTO on it? Looks great so far

Nope, not on this one. She's fully retired... Thank for the kudos!

 

[Cubbie]

Hi Craig, you did great so far. Any updates?

 

[Craig Kelley]

Hi Craig, you did great so far. Any updates?

Hey Cubbie! Yes, I'm doing some front-end work now. Will post shortly...

 

[Craig Kelley]

I started the front-end transformation from the drop-axle spindle to an axle that sticks out of an actual spindle. Here's the original mock-up of a king pin spindle and its mount (sans axle) to the front axle beam:

Welded up (with the "driver's side" steering arm attached, also with new hub on) it looks like this:

With some steering linkage and wheels in place:

Anyhow, aside from my welding, I'm liking the new front-end... Here's a better view of the spindle/hub from the front:

 

[Craig Kelley]

Here's a video of the new front end in (limited) action. The linkage to the steering box is mounted on the wrong side of the steering lever (my support that holds the tractor up is in the way), but it served as a decent test:

 

[mgwin]

Man, those front rims are wide! Gonna be a bear to steer with those. Hope you got power steering.

 

[Craig Kelley]

Man, those front rims are wide! Gonna be a bear to steer with those. Hope you got power steering.

Hey Marty, yes they are! My power steering unit consists of a right and left arm...

 

[jkoenig]

Armstrong steering system...

 

[Cubbie]

I started the front-end transformation from the drop-axle spindle to an axle that sticks out of an actual spindle.

Wow! Nice work, you're making lots of progress. Do you ever take a break?