Base of Operations Program 11/44

[aschumacher]

Jeff, don't you realize thats the way little Cub Cadets and VW Beetles were origionally conceived ?

 

[thoffman]

DAMN, Just think of the interest you'll be getting too. Another story on these snow storm. Another company had to clear out a Jewel food store and along with the many shopping cart in the snow pile a full sized car was on the top of the pile like a cherry on a sundae. Ahhhh those were the days.

 

[jbaker]

I been looking at a IH Farmall book and it looks like most if not all IH & Farmall tractors start with serial number 501.
I have never noticed nor heard this before, does anybody know a story about this?

 

[thoffman]

Jeff,
That is correct. I have been lucky with finding a few early/rare IH tractors. I ALLWAYS look at the serial #'s

 

[kmcconaughey]

Jeff, would that book be this one?

It has serial number lists for the various models and they all start with 501.

 

[jbaker]

Kraig it came from this book that I got at our libary

 

[jbaker]

here are the other two I am currently looking thru

Hey Todd are you out there?

 

[kmcconaughey]

Jeff, looks like you have a nice library!

 

[thoffman]

Jeff,
I get all my Farmall tractor info from this book

 

[aschumacher]

Tom, that looks like a really nice book to look thru. How old is it ? ?

 

[hydroharry]

Ok, this question ain't really a "Base of Operations Program 11/44" thing, and I have to admit I've never done any research into the question - but here goes. I had heard somewhere some place that many Cub Cadets were originally designed to (somewhat) look like the bigger tractors. I asked about it at the last show I was at with several IHC Collectors chapter members. There weren't aware of this although most were also not familiar with Cub Cadets. All they could do is look at the CC's at the show and there weren't to many. Is there anything to this "possible look alike" info I was informed of? Do any Cub Cadets look like any of the larger tractors? In some of the pictures I see some similarities but I'm not familiar with the bigger tractor models and many of you know them by heart.

 

[kmcconaughey]

 

[kide]

Harry :
Use Google Images and search for "IHC tractors" ..

 

[thoffman]

Allen,
1-10-56
It cross references all parts #'s to catalog # to machines

 

[thoffman]

Harry,
4100 = 71-123

1066 = Your beloved 86-169

 

[thoffman]

And Prototype 1963 Cub Cadet and International Farmall 806 comming off the line

 

[thoffman]

I just noticed the way the seat spring is set in on the prototype. Interesting.

 

[jdiederichs]

Zig-zag nose on the 4100

 

[dfrisk]

TOM - Actually, the 706 right behind the 806 in that second pic has a grill made from corragated perforated steel just like that prototype CC. The early 656's had that same type grill too. The 806 was the odd-ball, had the vertical cast iron bar style grill with white painted perforated mesh behind it, the only model to ever have that style grill. When the 1206 was released in 1965 it was the first Farmall to have the larger welded bar mesh grills which was used all thru the -26 & -56 series on all tractors.

It took a few years to get the ag tractor designers and garden tractor designers on the same page style-wise but IH kept the designs similar as much as they could to the very end with the 482/582/682/782/982 and the 88-series tractors. Probably the best effort was with the 86/1X8/1X9 & 66 & 86-series grills you showed, but the 71/1X2/123 was a close second compared to the 4100, but not so much the smaller 2WD Farmalls.

 

[hydroharry]

Thanks for all that info guys. I can see some resemblence but I think the Big Red guys I ran across never really looked at the CC units that much. I see some in the headlight area of the 1066 with the 169 except the 1066 has 2 vertical bars. The lower grill of the 1066 looks to me more like the 82 series. It's also definitely there on the 656 and 4100 compared to the 1x2/3.
Thanks again.