Archive through November 07, 2013

[kmcconaughey]

Steve,

Jeff, good call.

 

[fcurrier]

I'm back to thinking taper pin repair on narrow frame steering spindles and came across threaded taper pins:

However, it seems to me the small end should be threaded to "draw" the pin into the tapered hole. Am I missing something, here?

 

[mfrade]

Frank, the pin you show is used for alignment, normally setting something like a pillow block bearing into a frame mount, it is used to keep a mount to frame set in a repeatable position, even after many dis-assemblies. The nut on top is to remove the pin from the taper fit.

If you were to reverse the action and use the nut to tighten and pull the taper in, there would be a wedge effect and the potential to expand the intended parts making them looser, not tighter!

 

[fcurrier]

Thanks, Mike!

 

[dfrisk]

FRANK - We agree on something! I always felt the nut was on the wrong end too for the LF spindle application on a NF CC. Since the spirol roll pin eventually enlarges the hole the taper pin surely would too, and being able to draw the taper pin in tighter would be nice.

As Mike explained, taper pins are typically used in blind hole applications which is not the case on a CC spindle. Maybe using a slightly longer taper pin would allow the small end to be turned/ground down and a nut & washer used to keep the pin tight. I'll have to check and see how hard taper pins actually are. If they're harder than 30 Rockwell C I don't think you could cut threads on them. But you could maybe anneal them or draw the hardness out to the point of machinability.

 

[kide]

Lest we forget....

And on this Veteran's Day, I especially want to thank one guy who gave to his country - thanks for your service, Charlie.....

 

[aschumacher]

Gerry, Thanks for honors.
Veterans Day is actually Monday the 11th.
Allen...U.S.Army '68-'70

 

[proessler]

Did first round of lawn vacking yesterday. Couple days ago, I mowed up leaves & grass with mower with Gator Blades(50C) for preliminary mulching. I got mower deck too low at one point & the black smoke started to roll out of my 882's vertical muffler. I think the governor kicked on the 3 cylinder Kubota & was near or at peak torque because I had to stop & raise the deck to prevent the engine from stalling. The 882 has a rear mounted Easy-Vac model 40 pulling a IH #4 cart. I've used that Vacuum System on my first new Cub Cadet 128, then a '78 1450, & a late 1811 in '90.
Vacking the lawn almost compares to chopping corn in the fall or alfalfa in the summer back on the farm...

Denny how's your leaf situation? I still have Maple, Honey Locust & Poplar leaves hanging tough!

 

[mfrade]

Frank,If you're tempted, one can be fabricated. Then a taper reamer passed into the axle components and then install the new taper pin.

Your testing and evaluation could potentially help us all.

 

[dfrisk]

PAUL - Yep, still got somewhere between 1/3 and 1/2 the leaves on yet. Some trees are still green and full of leaves and my two Ash trees have been bare for a month already. But I can see thru all the Maples & Birches so we're getting close to the last mow of the season.

Been several years since I vacuumed leaves, I just mulch them really good by putting a block-off plate on the 50C on the 982. Then aerate at least once and twice if I have time. The last year I vacuumed I got around 30 loads of leaves & clippings. Took DAYS for it to all burn. And YES, I called in for a permit.

I've thought that running the vac was similar to chopping corn silage too, but actually closer to chopping haylage with all the dust. Just wish I had a "self-unloading wagon". Wyatt & I actually discussed making one years ago. He came out one weekend when he had his CC's here and mowed with his 169 & 44" deck with Gator's on it ahead of me. Vacuuming behind him sure made a difference in how fast the cart filled up. His Gator's just pulverized the leaves into dust and they blew away, I could cover twice the ground on a load compared to what I'd done the day before alone.

I think this is the 21st fall we've lived here. The trees are getting SO much bigger, so MANY MANY more loads of leaves. When the neighbor takes the corn off around my yard the wind will take what few leaves are left away for me and replace them with corn leaves & shucks, and a few bits of corn cob.

Think it was Veterans Day 11-12 yrs ago, was on a Friday, I took a Mental Health day off on Friday and started vacuuming about Noon... and kept vacuuming... and vacuuming. SON came home from work around 4 PM. Wife got home just after 5 PM. Son took off around 5:30. Lights in the house came on, then got turned off aeound 10 PM. I'm still vacuuming BTW. SON gets home around Midnight. I'm still vacuuming. I finally get done at 2 AM Saturday and park the 72 & vac for the night. I took most of Saturday off but aerated the whole yard twice with the 72 on Sunday. I can't begin to guess how many stops I made for gas with the 72, but ten to twelve would be close on the low side. When I checked the hour meter Sunday night I'd put 25 hours on it that weekend ALONE. I'd done an oil change Friday AM before I started. I'd added 3-4 oz. of oil Sunday AM before I started aerating. I never touched the tractor with a wrench or screw driver except to replace the headlight switch which burned to a crisp at 2 AM Sat. morning as I was unhooking the cart from the vac. Lucky the whole tractor didn't go up in smoke!

If the neighbors can combine & chisel plow till Midnite & 1 AM I can too. Years ago when the neighbor's had a 2+2 I used to go to sleep with a smile listening to that DT466 in his 3588 pulling his chisel plow!

 

[kostendorf]

Anyone have the number handy for gator blades on a 44c deck?

 

[kharvey]

I don't see the need for a threaded taper pin on
a cub. I did that repair to a couple of tractors
and haven't had the pin come loose yet. The German printing press I run has taper pin in many
high speed rotating parts and in 40 years I have
never seen one come out without a BFH.

 

[proessler]

Gator #90-657= ( CC 44") 2.5" x 15.125", .75" hole for G3 series Gator .

 

[kostendorf]

Thank you Paul, the first time I bought blades for this deck I got 759-3939 blades which were too long at 15.94 . Should have got 759-3838 blades . I had to cut some off each end and I don't want to do that again...

 

[dschwandt]

Case IH to the rescue here! Picked these up today, part #9838862, $19.93/pr + tax. Looks like they will do the trick just fine! Dern things are made in France!

Now all I have left to do is figure out the bends and length on the clutch engagement rod.

Hmmmm wonder how I will look in my Carharts, snow boots, a beret and ear muffs!!!!

 

[jbaker]

David, this is me several years ago in my carharts and a ski-mask.

 

[dcalkins]

Frank the thread on the big end is for removing the pin ,you will be glad its their .David

 

[fcurrier]

FWIW, it seems I can't copy/paste pics from the archives. However, I did post pics back on Dec. 5, 2009 on the taper pin repair for the NF steering spindle. The reamer itself now resides in Nova Scotia and I wish I had it back.

 

[mfrade]

So Frank, you've used a taper pin to repair a CC steering spindle before, so how's it worked out after these 4 years?

 

[kmcconaughey]

Here's a LINK to the archive page where Frank posted his taper pin fix. Frank's post is about half way down the page.