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hydroharry
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Tom - yup, sure'nuff looks like it'd be a 100 pointer to me. Makes ya wonder why the IH Board went with the yellar'n white color scheme to begin with. Can ya tell us a little more about what ya put together here. I think I see a 70/100 frame, and a custom knotch in that back frame cover where the spring assist is adjusted. A few more pics would be nice as well.
A question just came up with another member via email as to whether IH painted the fins on hydrostatic pumps in their tractors.
Does anyone know the answer to this?
Just curious...and I don't understand why they would with the heat these pumps can generate.
Does anyone know the answer to this?
Just curious...and I don't understand why they would with the heat these pumps can generate.
Wayne Shytle
Thanks for the note you sent me. some one at the post office has some set screws. I got one in the envelope lol.I did get 11 more this morning. Was at wallyworld and got 1 acre of sod to turn next month . That will give me some seat time.
Thanks for the note you sent me. some one at the post office has some set screws. I got one in the envelope lol.I did get 11 more this morning. Was at wallyworld and got 1 acre of sod to turn next month . That will give me some seat time.
hydroharry
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Wayne, et al - interesting question on whether the hydro pump fins were painted. I've always seen the pumps have some light over-spray and I wondered how that happened. I thought IH dip painted most of the tractor after it was mostly assembled. Was it just the frames that were dipped? Did they change painting methods when the 123 Hydro was introduced?
Thanks guys-
I have always heard the pump doesn't get paint. In fact, I have cleaned overspray, etc. off of several. I was just clarifying for someone else. I have gone through a few pumps and always paint the cast iron half as well as the bolt heads along with the charge pump housing but never any aluminum.
The pump he is working on was painted and some of the pistons came out black where they should have been shiny. I'm sure this was a result of getting too hot.
I have always heard the pump doesn't get paint. In fact, I have cleaned overspray, etc. off of several. I was just clarifying for someone else. I have gone through a few pumps and always paint the cast iron half as well as the bolt heads along with the charge pump housing but never any aluminum.
The pump he is working on was painted and some of the pistons came out black where they should have been shiny. I'm sure this was a result of getting too hot.
HARRY - I'm pretty sure CC's were spray painted. I thought there was a picture posted here that showed CC tractors somewhere around the paint booth on the line @ LVL. Think it was Art A. that posted them originally from the WI archives.
The frames only seemed dipped since the painters did try to cover all the little nooks & cranies and when they did that with their high volume spray guns anything that ran across the two frame rails got real heavy coats of paint.
First job I had at FARMALL was right next to a paint booth for the main "Start Line". Just a wall made from corrogated steel roofing tin separated me from the booth and I never smelled any paint fumes. There were HUGE exhaust fans to pull the fumes & over-spray out of the booth. The other side of the booth away from where I worked was a "Water-fall" to capture dust out of the air to keep it out of the fresh paint. The floor was grated and had running water from the waterfall to pull the paint dust away from the wet paint too.
The only thing I know for sure that got "dipped" was raw unmachined castings shipped from all the IH foundries that got dipped in the casting sealer; and the sheet metal at FARMALL for the 88-series of tractors built after mid-1980 got dipped in the E-Coat paint system FARMALL put in. Not sure about TRUCK Division, but I know FARMALL was the only AG or Construction plant that had an e-coat system. I'm pretty sure E. Moline was still spray painting combines as late as 1985 when the Tenneco buy-out was completed. They may have continued spray painting up until the EM plant was closed August of 2004. I don't know for sure, I lost touch with all my contacts at any IH plant after 1985. And I've never heard anyone who toured the Case/IH East Moline plant mention an e-coat system.
DON - I figure you should be able to plow an acre in about four hours, maybe 3 if you run faster than I think like by using your Diesel!
OR.... You could host a PLOW DAY and if you're lucky, enough people would show up to plow the acre in five to ten minutes. I know the "Parade Lap" at Steve B's PD's we probably plow 3-4 acres in ONE pass. When you have 40-50 tractors in the furrow at one time, even with just a 10 inch wide moldboard you cut a REALLY wide swath!
The frames only seemed dipped since the painters did try to cover all the little nooks & cranies and when they did that with their high volume spray guns anything that ran across the two frame rails got real heavy coats of paint.
First job I had at FARMALL was right next to a paint booth for the main "Start Line". Just a wall made from corrogated steel roofing tin separated me from the booth and I never smelled any paint fumes. There were HUGE exhaust fans to pull the fumes & over-spray out of the booth. The other side of the booth away from where I worked was a "Water-fall" to capture dust out of the air to keep it out of the fresh paint. The floor was grated and had running water from the waterfall to pull the paint dust away from the wet paint too.
The only thing I know for sure that got "dipped" was raw unmachined castings shipped from all the IH foundries that got dipped in the casting sealer; and the sheet metal at FARMALL for the 88-series of tractors built after mid-1980 got dipped in the E-Coat paint system FARMALL put in. Not sure about TRUCK Division, but I know FARMALL was the only AG or Construction plant that had an e-coat system. I'm pretty sure E. Moline was still spray painting combines as late as 1985 when the Tenneco buy-out was completed. They may have continued spray painting up until the EM plant was closed August of 2004. I don't know for sure, I lost touch with all my contacts at any IH plant after 1985. And I've never heard anyone who toured the Case/IH East Moline plant mention an e-coat system.
DON - I figure you should be able to plow an acre in about four hours, maybe 3 if you run faster than I think like by using your Diesel!
OR.... You could host a PLOW DAY and if you're lucky, enough people would show up to plow the acre in five to ten minutes. I know the "Parade Lap" at Steve B's PD's we probably plow 3-4 acres in ONE pass. When you have 40-50 tractors in the furrow at one time, even with just a 10 inch wide moldboard you cut a REALLY wide swath!
Denny ; I wish I had some fellow cubers here that could come along and plow some. that would be a blast. I finally got a package ready to send to Charlie. I have been putting it off because of the cost to ship anything these days.But it must be done. In the am I will see what this little sucker is gonna cost
They had a sale on duck tape last week lol.
They had a sale on duck tape last week lol.
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Donald, Have you tried weighing a roll of duct tape lately?
Keith Ostendorf
I know , but I want it to get there with all the pieces together. I get mail so often that the box has split and I`am missing parts. I tend to pack them well now for the beating I know they will get.I expect this to cost over 50$ to ship.
I know , but I want it to get there with all the pieces together. I get mail so often that the box has split and I`am missing parts. I tend to pack them well now for the beating I know they will get.I expect this to cost over 50$ to ship.
Little Donnie Tanner would bitch if ya hung him with a new rope!!!!!
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From the amount of spray coming out of those guns, they might as well have been dipped. Probably would have saved money on the overspray going on the water bath.
Gotta love the no mask wearing spray guys. Probably sprayed 8-10 hours a day breathing that good old oil based enamel. What are the odds both of those guys died from cancer. I'm surprised there not smoking too.
Gotta love the no mask wearing spray guys. Probably sprayed 8-10 hours a day breathing that good old oil based enamel. What are the odds both of those guys died from cancer. I'm surprised there not smoking too.
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Nic: Thanks for the reality check. Sometimes "Cub Fever" combined with rose-colored glasses nostalgia keeps us from remembering that the "old days" weren't always as "good" as we remember them.
Terry Davis
you want to follow the frame back to where it bolts fast to the rear end . There you will find the four bolts to break the Cub into two pieces. That is also where you usually find that the frame has cracks. Usually some extra renforcement by the tabs where the bolts go solve the problem. You will have to look under the cub to see the bolts. Hope this helps .
Frank- I think the plug centered will be best, but I can`t afford new rope lol. or this might help http://cubfaq.com/lphead.html
you want to follow the frame back to where it bolts fast to the rear end . There you will find the four bolts to break the Cub into two pieces. That is also where you usually find that the frame has cracks. Usually some extra renforcement by the tabs where the bolts go solve the problem. You will have to look under the cub to see the bolts. Hope this helps .
Frank- I think the plug centered will be best, but I can`t afford new rope lol. or this might help http://cubfaq.com/lphead.html
