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Harry Bursell
Wayne and Matt - you guys probably grew up with units that didn't have the switch but there are alot of people now that never had experience of not having them. They just expect them to be there so accidents don't happen. I'd rather have the switch operational. As smart as we all are, I'd hate to have that "just one time" when doing some work on the tractor, and purposely bump the keyswitch to move the points or something, and have the engine start in gear and the tractor run over something, possibly even the person doing the work. It's not like this switch is a real bear to work on, or even adjust. It's quite straight forward to replace and adjust. If it was my tractor, and there is a chance someone else might jump on it, and hit the key, maybe even a kid at a tractor show, then I'd rather have some assurance that this switch is working.

Hydro Harry
Old Cubs Never Die (keep your switches operational)
 
Matt Gonitzke

I would never go along with a topic of the removal of safety equipment.But a down hill start on a touch of the key is cool for someone who has worked at it.The beginner might not know all of the problems a removal might wean.Just saying my .02
 
Harry-

I agree with you as well but I don't understand the part about someone bumping the starter to move the points with the tractor in gear. If that were to happen the person shouldn't be attempting anything. Kids are a main concern for us all (I have none). They're not expected to have any tractor sense so the switches should be a must around them. I have one of those green machines that was loaded with switches. The one that had to go first was the reverse pto kill switch. Doesn't everyone look back when going backwards? That seems a little too much for an ole timer like me. I think it was to wear out the pto switch so the "company" would make even more after the sale. IIRC the electric pto is over $200.
 
Just had a Johnson Model 10 fel given to me.not sure what tractor it can off of and the guy that gave it to me didnt know either. How can I tell if it will fit a cub 1200 or 1250.not sure where start on measuremtns. It is complete with pump and all the cylinders. Ron
 
Need a bit of help.
Was out for a ride on my 100 when all of a sudden it quit.
Acted like the switch was turned off.
Was unable to check for spark as I was out in the woods when it came to a stop.

My guess is that either the coil went or the condenser.

Anyone else have a idea?

Will need to make a recovery tool for behind the 3235 to drag it out of the woods and back to the shop.
 
Harry-

When my tractors are at shows, the keys are in my pocket. The FIRST thing I do when I work on a tractor is disconnect the battery...

The reason we have all of these safety devices is because of the brainless idiots that hurt someone and then sued the manufacturer.

Don-

For liability reasons, we aren't telling anyone how to do it, but I'm just saying why I don't believe in safety switches.
 
Ok on one of my cubs which is meant to be a pulling tractor I am having a carb problem running stock #26 carb when I hit gas tractor sort of stalls then picks up and revs up but acts like it's bouncing off of the governor any help would be greatly appreciated
 
Lonny,
Don't rule out the ignition switch. I have had ignition switches on both Originals and 70/100 fail internally and quit making contact, and the tractor would stop and not restart, until you turned the key off and then back on. I guess that would make the contacts do their thing again and the tractor would start and run until vibration or what ever cause it to quit making contact again. Otherwise look for a broken wire;
(1)from the voltage reg to the ignition switch.
(2)from ign sw to coil
(3)coil to points.
Stopping all of a sudden without some rough running or sputter, does not sound like a coil or condenser.
 
Paul Bell
As we know , points setting is per engine. you could have the points set at .20 and have it hunt also. we must all set them up buy the mark on the flywheel. My 107 is a strong runner and the .03 149 is better at everything. I like em all and enjoy them.b
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Paul B.

There was no sign of motor running bad, it just quit as if the key was shut off.

I tried working the switch out in the woods befor walking back to the house and nothing happened.

I did a quick look over for a broken wire, saw none, but that dont mean I did not see it.

Will take a day or two but I will get it back to the house where I can work on it.
 
Lonny, I had that happen before on my 102..It was the ignition switch plug. I would reach in between the battery and dash and pull the plug on the ignition switch and reinstall it and it started right up..Seems like it would loose contact and just shut down like you turned the key off..
 
Lonny, If that does not work, Take the + wire off the coil, The one coming from the key. Take a jumper wire and run it from the + side of the battery to the + side of coil and hit the starter button. If it starts up, It is the wiring,Ignition switch, or bad connection. If it does not it is the points,condensor,or coil..
 
I think it was to wear out the pto switch so the "company" would make even more after the sale. IIRC the electric pto is over $200.

I think it's a case of companies trying to protect themselves when someone does get hurt. I found the following article on tractorbynet.com - I'm not sure how accurate it is, but does show how a company has to protect itself against frivolous lawsuits.


LAWNMOWER MAN
by Randy Cassingham

By any measure, it was a tragic accident. In April 2004, Orvil Reedy
was mowing the lawn with a rider mower in front of his house in
Daleville, Virginia. Reedy and his wife, Roberta, operated a day care
facility from the house. One of their charges was Justin Simmons, 4.
Roberta was watching the boy, and went into the house to change his
younger brother's diaper. She left Justin there, sitting on the lawn,
unattended. Orvil kept mowing, heading up a slope.

The slope was too steep: the mower rolled backward and stalled. He
tried to restart it, but then noticed two tiny legs sticking out from
under the multi-bladed mower's deck. He screamed.

Roberta came running, but it was too late: Justin was dead. Is it
outrageous for someone whose profession it is to care for small children
to allow them to be anywhere near a machine that could easily kill them?
You bet. Thus his parents, Ron and Kristie Simmons, sued, demanding $6
million for Justin's wrongful death. The Reedys had insurance: their
insurance company apparently immediately offered the full amount of the
policy, $100,000, as a settlement. It wasn't enough; it probably wouldn't
be enough for most families whose child was killed in such a violent way
due to apparent negligence of a day car provider. Of course, the day care
providers would never be able to pay $6 million, so someone else was
added to the suit. Can you guess who? Take your time to try to figure it
out.
 
Continued:


Since the Reedys only had $100,000 worth of insurance, and the Simmons
family wanted $6 million, they also named the manufacturer of the
lawnmower to the suit, MTD Products Corp. What did MTD have to do with
the accident? The suit complained that there was no safety device to stop
the mower's blades from turning anytime the mower rolled backwards.

Is such a safety device standard on other brands? No. In fact, NO
mower has such a safety device and, according to MTD's attorney John
Fitzpatrick, no device like that has ever even been tested. Further, such
a device has never even been suggested by any safety agency, or anyone
else, before the accident in question.

Still, the case went to trial against the Reedys and MTD in June 2006.
In the trial, MTD's attorney laid the blame on the Reedys. He pointed out
that Orvil Reedy had not attempted to obtain an owner's manual for the
16-year-old lawn mower and had not paid any attention to the warning
labels on the mower.

Amazingly, just before the case went to the jury for deliberation, the
Simmonses dropped the Reedys from the suit. It is unclear whether they
had accepted the original insurance settlement or not, but the jury only
had to decide the case against MTD.

You, dear reader, are a member of the jury too -- you're a juror in
the Court of Public Opinion. How would YOU rule in this case? You may
throw it out, and even award damages to MTD. Or you may find for the
Simmonses, awarding anywhere from $1 to the $6 million they asked for, or
even more if you find MTD's conduct to be "outrageous". But you *cannot*
order the Reedys to pay a cent: they were dropped from the suit. OK, so
how do you rule?

The jury deliberated for 10 hours before finding that MTD was at fault
for not inventing a safety device that no one else has, or maybe has even
thought of before this accident.

"We're just hoping that we make a difference," said Theresa Reed, who
served on the seven-person jury in the case. "We just want the industry
to see that there's a problem that needs to be fixed."

"The jury has spoken loud and clear," said the Simmons's lawyer, Brent
Brown, after his triumph. "The protection of small children is one of the
most important obligations of society." He said the company was sued not
to get rich, but to "get the attention" of the mower industry.

The jury awarded Ron Simmons and his wife Kristie $500,000 each, and
Justin's now-3-year-old brother, Josh, $1 million for a total of $2
million.

"I find it incredulous that a jury no longer cares about common
sense," complained Brown, MTD's attorney. He promises an appeal of the
"nonsense" verdict.

I'm sure not going to fault the parents for wanting some justice for
their child, but that justice needs to come from a rational source. The
mower didn't have a safety device which didn't exist when it was made in
1988. In fact, that safety device doesn't exist NOW. Worse, it's not even
clear that the safety device the plaintiff's lawyer came up with after
the fact, even if it was now invented, tested and installed on mowers,
would have prevented Justin's death. How could a company "reasonably
foresee" such a thing?

What's the real cause of this accident? The people hired to watch
after Justin failed in their responsibility; the child was left
unattended near dangerous machinery. Yet the people responsible for
watching after him were let off the hook, and a company with deep pockets
was made to pay for their failure, even though they could not have
reasonably done a thing to prevent the accident. Why is the intentional
act of holding MTD responsible any less outrageous than the Reedys
unintentional act?


SOURCE:
1) "Lawn Mower Company Liable in Boy's Death", Roanoke Times, 18 June
2006
 
Hey guys, I need some help trying to recall a recent conversation here. I don't remember who had the problem or what model tractor it was, but during the past few weeks someone asked for help with a tractor that ran well for a while (while mowing), but after 15 or 20 minutes it began losing power and not running so well. Does that ring a bell for anyone? I can't even come up with the right search terms to try to find that conversation. It's hell getting old when I'm only 55!

My reason for asking is, my brother has a friend with a 1450 that exhibits those symptoms, and he asked me about it. I suggested he tell his friend that it's not repairable & I'll give her $20 for the tractor, but he didn't like that idea. (I was just kidding, of course.) I told him I'd try to find that recent conversation as a starting point for troubleshooting. Anybody with a better memory than me able to help?
 
Thanks Paul & Kevin for the help, I will know what to look for when I get it back out of the woods in a couple of days.
 
Just bought this back blade today. Can someone verify its brand. I believe it is a Brinly.
Thanks!
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Andy-
Yes, that is a Brinly rear blade. I believe it is an early-version too. The later versions used gusset-plates on the back rather than the bar-stock-gussets welded on yours.

I have an early blade here too, but it's nowhere near as nice as yours.
 

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