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What is a show tractor? The simple answer is anything (tractor wise) in running/operating condition that someone takes to
a tractor/machinery show to display for others to see. You will see everything from running original condition units to over restored trailer queens, to units in their "work clothes".

With that said, most display tractors have been restored (I don't like to use that word because it has a different meaning to different people) or refurbished (my prefered term), normally by the owner (but sometimes by a pro), to the best of that owners ability and means. We all know that everyone does not have same skills and ability when it comes to refurbishing a tractor, but all those owners are just as proud of their finnished tractor as the person that hired a pro to do theirs. Some are true "trailer queens" that are never used or driven, not even to put them on or off a trailer, others are used carefully, almost daily, or driven in parades ect. Some are painted with rattle cans, some are painted with the latest "high tec super duper paint" that cost more than the tractor did. As someone once said, you only have to please yourself so it's all in what the owner likes.

I live in an older subdivision the city, and don't have a lot of room to store many tractors, so they come and go (think there is 11 here right now). I cut my grass with a new Zero Turn because I'm lazy, and really don't use any of my tractors very much, but I am not afraid to use them. I have hauled them all around the US from Iowa to the New England states and about every place in between. I have no idea how many Cub Cadets I have owned over the years, but it is a lot (over 30 Originals). I enjoy finding the rare ones, refurbishing it, taking it to a few shows, then selling it, and start hunting for another one to do. I use Case IH Federal Yellow paint and a 901 white match from Nasons (Dupont) when I can't find NOS IH 901 white (I have a gallon can of it at present), because to me that looks more like what they were painted originally. Some people like the new high tec paint, it looks pretty, but that is not what the tractor looked when it left the Louisville Plant. When someone tells me they "restored" their Cub Cadet and it is perfect, I ask where the paint runs are and how many? I get some strange looks as they say none, but they sure had them when they were new.

So what is a show tractor? In my opinion, it is any tractor that the owner is proud of and displays for others to see and enjoy.
 
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Hey Paul - if you ask Jim Chabot where the paint runs are he'll show'm to ya. I think the big long one on the inside of the frame was the hardest to duplicate. How long is it supposed to be? (
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Harry,
The easy ones are on the inside of the hood.... How long are they? Depends on who was using the paint gun that day.
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I should add that some show tractors are modified/customized or recreations of other tractors.
 
Mmasheris....Man that 982 is sharp lookin. I gotta look everytime you post pics of it. lol "one of these days" i'll have me one.lol I'm sure your proud of the way it turned out.

SHOW tractors... only been to 1 show really since I've got into these things, The Brookville tractor & machinery show. It was fun,there was alot more bigger tractors there,but they had quite a few gt also. Good bit of cc, the more I think about it, I could never aford to put that kinda money in one like some,esp the big time pullers, but I do like lookin at them.
 
Paul B.-

I've never heard it stated better...especially the part about "restored" vs "refurbed". I also liked the part about showing up in their "work clothes". I think I would have qualified as a painter for IH in thinking about my past paint jobs. I can run with the best of them.
 
Paul B - I should have also mentioned yes, I've heard of $600/gal etching primer and $300/gal Imron Federal Yellow, and it runs really well and really fast.
 
any tractor can be a show tractor

(depesnds on how much work you want to do to it)

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after too much money put in to it
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would i sell it?
no probably not

would i do it again? yes
 
Daniel M - well, to supplement the other answers to your question, as I understood the No. 30 and No. 26 stamped inside the Kohler carbs made by Carter, was supposed to identify the millimeter size of the venturi opening. If you've got a ruler handy you can check the no. 30. So, if you're looking at a carb with the no. 52 inside it either has a great big venturi opening, or it's likely not a Carter made carb, and as others mentioned it's probably a Walbro with a really bad reputation.

Chris R - I'm usually not a Red/White guy when it comes to these units but that sure is a really nice looking Original and I actually do like your color scheme. My recommendation would be definitely NOT sell it. I think you should go out and find another one in similar condition to your 1st pic, and take them both to the shows - for that before and after look.

Allen (and Charlie) - unfortunately I cannot agree. Charlie should only receive partial credit. The difference between a No. 30 carb and No. 52 carb is a No. 22 carb. Since Charlie left "carb" off his answer he should only gets 50% credit.
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Well, hope I didn't open the proverbial "can of worms" but good stuff just the same. I've learned a few things today (I think). I've learned that pretty much anything goes, I don't stand a chance of looking good vs the pros, and last - they will be refurbs because I forgot to snap pics of the runs before blasting. Oh we'll, I'm at least trying to get it right and IF I ever take one of these things to a show I'll leave it in a distant parking lot till I see what's there. Will check out the magazines mentioned and scour around for shows in this area. Again, thanks all and hope everyone is enjoying their tractors and all as much as I do!
 
Just got home with half the Cubs I had to pick up and half the parts I bought .I have to go tomorrow to get the decks and 3 snow blades and other parts.

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There is a working snow blower in there somewhere!

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Hey Donald - what is that little blue stand in the pics? Need a small engine stand and curious if that is what it is?
 
Terry D - just to enlighten you - YOU absolutely stand a really good chance of looking as good or even better than the pros. I took a restored (er, refurbed) 107 to a show in CT, and the best of the best Restore Painters couldn't believe I used rattle cans to paint it. I never had my own compressor and never owned a spray gun. I will say I may have painted some parts 3 times but you can still do a terrific paint job with rattle cans - you need right surface prep, primed and wet sanded for most items, right sunlight, right spraying finger, and just the right amount of luck. Heck, I should have also mentioned I brush paint the cast iron front and rear axles with a chip brush - yes it can be done, and done to look as good as any professional job. Now, the down side is it might have taken me a month to finish what others do in 2 days, but the up side is I did it myself and it looked great. So heck, don't let the painting job bother ya, just practice practice practice. (I prefer spray cans of the Case/IH Iron Guard 935 White, and the Cub Cadet Federal Yellow for the IH era)
 
Terry Davis

The rest of that is under the tractor. It is a wheel chalk for my Nomad MC. There is a section that when you drive on it that holds the front wheel (tire)so I can get off the bike and tie it down . it is held in place by the part at the top you can see. Works great for my Motor Cycle .
 

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