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fcurrier
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Don: I don't think that's an IH Cart. It resembles a #1 Cart, but the wheels bolt on and it looks longer with maybe a little less angle on the ends. That 125 looks pretty good, and I see it has a hydraulic pump on it.
(Paul's faster and uses fewer words)!
(Paul's faster and uses fewer words)!
Don T.-
I hope you can talk the seller down to your liking. That looks to be a heavy duty yard trailer; it has a trailer axle and tongue supports, etc. What kind of coupler does it have? I would guess it to be 1000# load limit at least.
I hope you can talk the seller down to your liking. That looks to be a heavy duty yard trailer; it has a trailer axle and tongue supports, etc. What kind of coupler does it have? I would guess it to be 1000# load limit at least.
Value for a tiller, with: sleeve hitch, helper spring, 90 degree gear box and tiller mule drive…
I’ve found a tiller for sale close by with the above listed items. The owner has asked for best offer. I don’t know how much they should go for.
I don’t need the sleeve hitch & helper spring as I have a rear hydraulic lift already installed on my 1650. I’d just like to make a reasonable offer as it is listed in “prefect working order.”
Thanks!
-Calvin
I’ve found a tiller for sale close by with the above listed items. The owner has asked for best offer. I don’t know how much they should go for.
I don’t need the sleeve hitch & helper spring as I have a rear hydraulic lift already installed on my 1650. I’d just like to make a reasonable offer as it is listed in “prefect working order.”
Thanks!
-Calvin
Wayne Shytle
That is the only picture of the cart that I have and no description on the tongue to tractor connection. The Cub has not run in years and has a spray can paint job . He even painted the hydro pump belt,so I will pass on it. It does not run now and I won`t pay that price and not hear it running before I pay for it. I would imagine it will need steering work and who knows what else, It could add another two hundred to his high price. I will keep looking .
That is the only picture of the cart that I have and no description on the tongue to tractor connection. The Cub has not run in years and has a spray can paint job . He even painted the hydro pump belt,so I will pass on it. It does not run now and I won`t pay that price and not hear it running before I pay for it. I would imagine it will need steering work and who knows what else, It could add another two hundred to his high price. I will keep looking .
Calvin L.
Values on things we can't see is tough man.
Prices vary from region to region, and there's no set price for anything.
In the midwest areas, you can buy that setup for $150.00 to $200.00. East coast, it could be closer to 400 and so on.
My best advice would be to look and feel things over, and think about what the benefits are for you and if they won't give you a starting price. Low ball them and start the haggle!
Values on things we can't see is tough man.
Prices vary from region to region, and there's no set price for anything.
In the midwest areas, you can buy that setup for $150.00 to $200.00. East coast, it could be closer to 400 and so on.
My best advice would be to look and feel things over, and think about what the benefits are for you and if they won't give you a starting price. Low ball them and start the haggle!
Don T.-
It sounds like you came across one of those "it's a vintage tractor therefore it's worth a lot" kind of guys. Have you told him you are a collector? I'm also assuming you will have to make a road trip for the collection. I'd ask him to send more pics too. I'd also inform him as to what it will cost you to get the tractor in good running condition, including a spill on the trunion which no one ever seems to know anything about. Anyway, if it's close enough and a price can be agreed upon it would be a great addition, even with a rattle can paint job. The hydraulics alone would be enough to get me cranked up to haggle.
Good luck and I hope you get it.
It sounds like you came across one of those "it's a vintage tractor therefore it's worth a lot" kind of guys. Have you told him you are a collector? I'm also assuming you will have to make a road trip for the collection. I'd ask him to send more pics too. I'd also inform him as to what it will cost you to get the tractor in good running condition, including a spill on the trunion which no one ever seems to know anything about. Anyway, if it's close enough and a price can be agreed upon it would be a great addition, even with a rattle can paint job. The hydraulics alone would be enough to get me cranked up to haggle.
Good luck and I hope you get it.
DONALD - I agree with Wayne, don't let a "rattle can paint job" keep you from buying it, they're good if done properly, My #72's "RCPJ" is soon (like in weeks) going to be thirty years old and even up close doen't look that bad.
The hyd lift is better for some things than the manual lift, but compared to your 129 loader's system or your 1512, has limited application, no remotes possible, can't dump your cart.
But being a non-runner and priced higher than you want to pay is still an issue. It's only worth what you're willing to pay!
The hyd lift is better for some things than the manual lift, but compared to your 129 loader's system or your 1512, has limited application, no remotes possible, can't dump your cart.
But being a non-runner and priced higher than you want to pay is still an issue. It's only worth what you're willing to pay!
Guys yep I know what would have to be done. Trunion and replace all fluds,I bet it will need the steering box gone over and a few ti-rods .There is no mower deck so thats a - I think. With it not running heck it might knock and smoke also.I realy don`t need another basket case here that could use up much $$. $1500.00 is to much I think .
Tiller pricing continued...
After making an offer the seller has quoted me an asking price of $475 for "just the tiller & 90 degree gear box," although I think he also means the included spring assist sleeve hitch and narrow frame mule drive.
I won't be able to post pics (will have to see with my own eyes), but the unit is described as "Low hours everything is in perfect working order. You won't find a better Cadet tiller for a collector or for everyday use."
I see where a similar rig might go for $150-200 in the midwest and possibly up to $400 on east coast - did this value take the gear box into consideration?
I don't need the mule drive (I own a 1650), nor the sleeve hitch, which I believe to be valued around $100 by itself. (I've got a hydraulic sleeve hitch on 1650) - so $475 is out of the question. I guess to make any sort of offer I need to find out if the gearbox is a consideration or not.
Thanks for any input.
-Calvin
After making an offer the seller has quoted me an asking price of $475 for "just the tiller & 90 degree gear box," although I think he also means the included spring assist sleeve hitch and narrow frame mule drive.
I won't be able to post pics (will have to see with my own eyes), but the unit is described as "Low hours everything is in perfect working order. You won't find a better Cadet tiller for a collector or for everyday use."
I see where a similar rig might go for $150-200 in the midwest and possibly up to $400 on east coast - did this value take the gear box into consideration?
I don't need the mule drive (I own a 1650), nor the sleeve hitch, which I believe to be valued around $100 by itself. (I've got a hydraulic sleeve hitch on 1650) - so $475 is out of the question. I guess to make any sort of offer I need to find out if the gearbox is a consideration or not.
Thanks for any input.
-Calvin
Calvin L,
If it's a IH #1A w/extensions or #2 tiller with low hours, minimal tine wear, nice original paint (no rust) and decals and the guy will include the hitch, helper spring and mule drive for his initial price, then I don't think you have too done badly at all since you are out East. Bottom line is its worth what you are willing to pay.
You can sell the sleeve hitch, mule drive and helper spring to recoup part of the cost. One thing to consider that you didn't mention is the long drive belt that will work on your 1650. Those belts are a little pricey but available from the sponsors above or your nearest CC dealer. You might ask him if he has a drive belt for it and what model it was used on (I assume it's a narrow frame model since the mule drive is narrow).
It's been a while since I've looked at tiller prices but $150-200 here in the Midwest for a used rear mounted tiller generally does not include the gear box and mounting bracket. Gear boxes generally go for $100+. You will also need a wide frame mule drive with the tensioner pulleys pointing straight back. Not sure if you were planning on using your mule drive for your mower deck or not. Some have done that and made it work but not my preference, especially if you have a large amount of tilling to do. Go take a look at it with cash in hand and see what kind of a deal you can make.
If it's a IH #1A w/extensions or #2 tiller with low hours, minimal tine wear, nice original paint (no rust) and decals and the guy will include the hitch, helper spring and mule drive for his initial price, then I don't think you have too done badly at all since you are out East. Bottom line is its worth what you are willing to pay.
You can sell the sleeve hitch, mule drive and helper spring to recoup part of the cost. One thing to consider that you didn't mention is the long drive belt that will work on your 1650. Those belts are a little pricey but available from the sponsors above or your nearest CC dealer. You might ask him if he has a drive belt for it and what model it was used on (I assume it's a narrow frame model since the mule drive is narrow).
It's been a while since I've looked at tiller prices but $150-200 here in the Midwest for a used rear mounted tiller generally does not include the gear box and mounting bracket. Gear boxes generally go for $100+. You will also need a wide frame mule drive with the tensioner pulleys pointing straight back. Not sure if you were planning on using your mule drive for your mower deck or not. Some have done that and made it work but not my preference, especially if you have a large amount of tilling to do. Go take a look at it with cash in hand and see what kind of a deal you can make.
sblunier
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box is part of the tiller, can't have one without the other...and the $$$ for a complete tiller should include the gear box in the cost.
Seems steep to me, for those $$$ it would have to be a perfect #2 model, and even then i would think he's overpriced by at least $150. #1's with or without extensions would be worth even less IMHO....
Seems steep to me, for those $$$ it would have to be a perfect #2 model, and even then i would think he's overpriced by at least $150. #1's with or without extensions would be worth even less IMHO....
Don T.-
If he wants that much chances are he will still have it in a few months. I'd keep his contact info and run a casual question by him say... this spring. People get tired of trying to sell things and some will come back to reality with a price. I've had it happen more than once.
I think that trailer is worth more than your average yard trailer. I'd sure like to have it.
There's a guy here in the mountains of NC that is trying to get $2200 for a 1450, deck, and tiller and the tractor hasn't been gone through...just worked.
If he wants that much chances are he will still have it in a few months. I'd keep his contact info and run a casual question by him say... this spring. People get tired of trying to sell things and some will come back to reality with a price. I've had it happen more than once.
I think that trailer is worth more than your average yard trailer. I'd sure like to have it.
There's a guy here in the mountains of NC that is trying to get $2200 for a 1450, deck, and tiller and the tractor hasn't been gone through...just worked.
Calvin L.
I gave $175.00 for this #2 tiller with paint still on the tines, gearbox, 3 belts and 2 sets of IH wheel weights a few years back if that tells you anything.
I gave $175.00 for this #2 tiller with paint still on the tines, gearbox, 3 belts and 2 sets of IH wheel weights a few years back if that tells you anything.
mgonitzke
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Jon S.-
You want it pretty tight. I know that's extremely subjective and relative, but that's what I was told on here before. If it slips easily it is probably not tight enough, or about to break.
Jeremiah-
Did everybody get your spacers figured out? I was out of town for a couple days. If you look at the rearend and at the engine mounting plate, you will see that it is angled. I just measured the angle on a spare plate of mine a couple of days ago when I was trying to sort out a snowthrower belt misalignment issue.
Whoever was talking about their 582 not having spacers, the 582 has spacers, too, but they are thinner than the 6/782 ones.
You want it pretty tight. I know that's extremely subjective and relative, but that's what I was told on here before. If it slips easily it is probably not tight enough, or about to break.
Jeremiah-
Did everybody get your spacers figured out? I was out of town for a couple days. If you look at the rearend and at the engine mounting plate, you will see that it is angled. I just measured the angle on a spare plate of mine a couple of days ago when I was trying to sort out a snowthrower belt misalignment issue.
Whoever was talking about their 582 not having spacers, the 582 has spacers, too, but they are thinner than the 6/782 ones.
mhomrighausen
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- Marlin Homrighausen
Calvin L. Last September a gentleman had a 127 with deck sitting in his yard with a For Sale sign on it. I stopped and asked how much. He said that he had a real nice tiller (as nice as Charlie's pictured one) to go with and everything in a package deal was $700.00 FIRM. I looked at the tractor and deck and was honest with him after all we live in the same town. The 127 need hydro linkage work big time and the deck needed some serious TLC. The tiller on the other hand ... again really nice. I told him the 127 and mower in the present condition was a $250.00 outfit. I said the tiller if he wanted to wait until next spring he may get $200. I told him that was $250.00 short of his price. I told him that I could get him $200.00 for the tiller if he was patient or even give him that for it myself if he waited until spring since I didn't need one until then. I told him that I'd have no problem getting $150.00 for it last fall and even had a buyer in mind that I would have put him in contact with directly. To my knowledge he still has the whole outfit in his garage.
