Jeremiah, from the Cub Cadet PARTS LOOKUP:
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wmakowicki
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I have a 1200 with the kohler with the same front bolt clearence issue, I put studs in the engine (has tapped base) and used nuts from under. Those front bolts are a pain.
I have a 1200 with the kohler with the same front bolt clearence issue, I put studs in the engine (has tapped base) and used nuts from under. Those front bolts are a pain.
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Kraig,
Thanks for the pictorial with part number callout! Definitely answers my exhaust question.
The spacer appears out-of-place though, I'm assuming four (4) of them get installed between the plate and the motor. The use of 3/8" pipe would explain the gouges in my deck plate. Surely the spacers aren't used under the plate as it appears from a casual glance at the catalog shot.
By-the-way, can the "Cub Parts Lookup" be accessed from the IH Cub Cadet Forum web site?
Thanks for the pictorial with part number callout! Definitely answers my exhaust question.
The spacer appears out-of-place though, I'm assuming four (4) of them get installed between the plate and the motor. The use of 3/8" pipe would explain the gouges in my deck plate. Surely the spacers aren't used under the plate as it appears from a casual glance at the catalog shot.
By-the-way, can the "Cub Parts Lookup" be accessed from the IH Cub Cadet Forum web site?
MELODY S. re: chain tension on a QA-36. I think you should be O-K with 1/4" of slack, too tight is really hard on the tiny needle bearings on the drive shaft and the little pins inside the chain.
Much more slack and the chain starts flopping around and you risk the chance of it jumping off one of the sprockets.
Much more slack and the chain starts flopping around and you risk the chance of it jumping off one of the sprockets.
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Melody - I just read your question about chain tension. I was about to tell you that I also put about a quarter inch slack in my QA42A chain, but wasn't sure if that was really appropriate. Thanks for asking the question.
Dennis - Thanks for answering the question. I was just thinking back to my days on the farm, and remembering how my dad would have adjusted the chains. I never really put it together with the reasons you gave, so thanks for the tutorial; knowing the reason(s) for doing something a certain way will ensure I won't forget it. (Well, at my age "ensure" may be too strong of word!
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Dennis - Thanks for answering the question. I was just thinking back to my days on the farm, and remembering how my dad would have adjusted the chains. I never really put it together with the reasons you gave, so thanks for the tutorial; knowing the reason(s) for doing something a certain way will ensure I won't forget it. (Well, at my age "ensure" may be too strong of word!
GREG - Your Dad must have had newer equipment than most of the stuff My Dad farmed with, seemed like everything ran with the old fashioned iron LINK chain, the kind you could bend and pound the links apart. Everything from elevators, hay rakes, corn planters, corn pickers, even the combines used them a LOT.
Most of my roller chain experience came from my old motorcycles, and since most of my old bikes were enduro bikes the chains got run in some pretty nasty conditions, mud, water, sand.
DAVE KIRK & I talked once when I paid him a visit, think it was when Wyatt picked up his newly balanced K321 Kohler about how great the old technical articles in CYCLE Magazine were back in the late 1960's & early 1970's, Gordon Jennings wrote some FANTASTIC articles on things we all take for granted, everything from pistons & rings, bearings of all kinds, roller chain, 2-stroke engine expansion chambers. Lots of the technical facts I mention in my posts are facts from articles of his I read 40+/- yrs ago. He concentrated mostly on 2-stroke engines but a LOT of the science works with 4-strokes like our Kohler's as well. At the time Gordon wrote his 2-stroke tuning guide; http://www.datafan.com/TunersHandbook/2-strokefiltered.html and was doing the Cycle Mag artilces I was trying to keep a Amerachi-Harley Davidson 125 CC Rapido running so I had something to run to work daily, my 1-way commute varied from 1-2 miles to TEN miles. It was a Good Work day when I didn't end up pushing it home or having to borrow a pickup to haul it home!
Most of my roller chain experience came from my old motorcycles, and since most of my old bikes were enduro bikes the chains got run in some pretty nasty conditions, mud, water, sand.
DAVE KIRK & I talked once when I paid him a visit, think it was when Wyatt picked up his newly balanced K321 Kohler about how great the old technical articles in CYCLE Magazine were back in the late 1960's & early 1970's, Gordon Jennings wrote some FANTASTIC articles on things we all take for granted, everything from pistons & rings, bearings of all kinds, roller chain, 2-stroke engine expansion chambers. Lots of the technical facts I mention in my posts are facts from articles of his I read 40+/- yrs ago. He concentrated mostly on 2-stroke engines but a LOT of the science works with 4-strokes like our Kohler's as well. At the time Gordon wrote his 2-stroke tuning guide; http://www.datafan.com/TunersHandbook/2-strokefiltered.html and was doing the Cycle Mag artilces I was trying to keep a Amerachi-Harley Davidson 125 CC Rapido running so I had something to run to work daily, my 1-way commute varied from 1-2 miles to TEN miles. It was a Good Work day when I didn't end up pushing it home or having to borrow a pickup to haul it home!
Jeremiah C.
Try looking at the top of every page on the forum!
Try looking at the top of every page on the forum!
Dennis, Thanks for your answer. I found it real loose, so I tightened it up snug. Then I read the manual and it said not to tight, not to loose.
(in so many words) So I guessed at about the right tension, but I was wondering if I guessed right.
(in so many words) So I guessed at about the right tension, but I was wondering if I guessed right.
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Dennis - Oh, yeah, don't get me wrong, most of dad's farm equipment was like yours, with the old flat link chain. But there were a couple "newer" pieces toward the end, before he quit farming (although everything was bought used. I don't think he ever had any brand new equipment).
Of course, the best equipment he ever got was the used 1980 Cub Cadet 782 that I bought from Mom after Dad died in 2004. And looking for info on that tractor is how I found this forum, and three more Cubs. (How's that for keeping this on-topic, Charlie?)
Of course, the best equipment he ever got was the used 1980 Cub Cadet 782 that I bought from Mom after Dad died in 2004. And looking for info on that tractor is how I found this forum, and three more Cubs. (How's that for keeping this on-topic, Charlie?)
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Digger, Kraig,
Thanks for the steer, I had tried the link before, but I was not able to unlock the site until I entered the model number "1711" as seen on the title bar of Kraig's screen shot.
Thanks for the steer, I had tried the link before, but I was not able to unlock the site until I entered the model number "1711" as seen on the title bar of Kraig's screen shot.
Santa came a few weeks early this year so I had time to read my early Christmas present, a first edition hardcover copy of "A Corporate Tragety". We should be lucky that the Quiet lines and 82's were even built.
TOM - Until I read my copy, also first edition, I had NO idea how close we all came to being sent home every day because IH couldn't borrow enough CASH to meet the day's payroll.
Ir's interesting how many Experts thought IH made a bad decision to sell off everything but the truck & engine groups, getting rid of the ag line mostly, but now close to thirty yrs later, it's proven to have been a difficult journey, but the correct decision.
Ir's interesting how many Experts thought IH made a bad decision to sell off everything but the truck & engine groups, getting rid of the ag line mostly, but now close to thirty yrs later, it's proven to have been a difficult journey, but the correct decision.
Dennis, Yup I've seen some interviews of IH employees that couldn't understand why layoffs were common. Accoording to the book and MHO the layoffs and MORE cost cutting measures should have been in effect long before 11-26-84. The constuction line was fill with POS anyhow, no loss there. IH's AG line might have still been with us.
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for this, but if anyone wants to see some nice pics of a 102 and IH trailer that's too far away for me to deal with, on ebay.
On the Corporate Tragedy subject, there's a thread in the Sandbox dedicated to this what should be required reading book. Ms. Marsh did a fine job of making it read more like a story that just a bunch of statistics.
On the Corporate Tragedy subject, there's a thread in the Sandbox dedicated to this what should be required reading book. Ms. Marsh did a fine job of making it read more like a story that just a bunch of statistics.
TOM, Corp wide, '79 was the most profitable year IH ever had. Then '80 was bad due to the strike, '81 wasn't good, and until '84 each year was a progressive slide down hill.
And like every other company, some of IH's stuff was as good or better than anything else being made, Cub Cadets, most of their ag line, tractors, combines, plows & discs, and they were the #1 truck company for many years, but their construction line seemed to have several weak spots compared to the competition. Their big crawlers, dirt scrapers weren't in the same league as CAT. And other lines like their tractor/loader/backhoes, articulated end loaders just weren't that pupular.
And like every other company, some of IH's stuff was as good or better than anything else being made, Cub Cadets, most of their ag line, tractors, combines, plows & discs, and they were the #1 truck company for many years, but their construction line seemed to have several weak spots compared to the competition. Their big crawlers, dirt scrapers weren't in the same league as CAT. And other lines like their tractor/loader/backhoes, articulated end loaders just weren't that pupular.
