Archive through February 12, 2012

[dfrisk]

PAUL - Not much you can do to quiet down a single cyl. Kohler. New muffler will help a little but it will still BARK under a good load.

I have a straight pipe on the K321 in my #72 and wear a cheap pair of Radio Shack head phones when I run it for an eztended time hooked to the AM/FM stereo. Sometimes I think the neighbors can hear the stereo from the head phones more than the tractor! The head phones help reduce the noise from the mower deck which is almost as loud as the engine.

I'd suggest something like noise cancelling head phones and/or ear plugs. I doubt NAPA would have anything quieter and I'm sure the sponsors could probably beat them on price. I have always had poor luck getting anything from my local NAPA.

 

[stanner]

Paul,
I was toying with the idea of opening up the muffler on my 149 and inserting packing made from fiberglas or a stainless steel chore-boy scrubbie to muffle it some... I wonder if anyone had done something like this... My other option was to run an exhaist pipe from the engine andout to the back of the tractor.. not a lot of room to do that, though... The ideas are still in the "postulate" stage.

 

[vthomley]

Jeremiah, here's some more pics of the 104 that you mentioned in the other thread. I no longer own this, I sold it to a co-worker, he used it 1 winter to plow snow then sold it to another co-worker who let his kids use it and maybe abuse it... Sadly the last I knew he had asked me about 15" tires and installing a twin cylinder something into it....
Here's a pic of it during the reburb.

Here it is along my 122 ready for plow day in Iowa.

At plow day in Iowa, Art Aytay had bought this in Iowa at the plow day a year or 2 earlier, then sold me the gold plated frame. I think for the price I paid it was gold plated, just kidding! Or it may have been free, I can't remember..

And the 4 we brought to Iowa that year, the spring of 2009. From left to right, my dad's 72, my dad's 1000, my 122, and my 104.

 

[kmcconaughey]

Scott, Paul, Denny, all, here's a LINK to one of David Kirk's Killer Kohler write ups (BTW, all 3 of his write ups are linked to in the IH Cub Cadet Pulling and Hot Rodding forum...). In this one write up part 2, he has info on modifying a muffler.

 

[dfrisk]

VINCE - You should do what My DAD did with the 70 that's out in my shop right now. Dad traded a '63 CCO for the 70 in '65. We ran it till about '85 or so. Dad sold it to a co-worker who mowed with it for about half the summer, got done mowing the last time and a foot past the last of the grass the kid hit the key and bailed off the tractor leaving it set all winter.

About March Dad takes his pickup to work one day. Backs up in the guys yard and starts pushing the old 70 towards the truck. Dad's co-worker comes out an asks what Dad was doing. Dad stopped long enough to get out his wallet and hand the guy what He'd paid Dad for the 70 the summer before and went back to pushing the CC onto the truck. There was a couple comments about "proper care of equipment" that I can't post here on a family rated site.

That 104 looks WAY too nice to butcher up with big tires & a big V-twin engine that will require the hood to be chopped up.

KRAIG - I'll have to check Dave's comments out, been a while since I read all the Killer Kohler write-ups. I put a straight pipe on my K321 because I was trying to get heat away from the engine as quick as I could.

 

[digger]

Art,
They are in what THEY call the design stage! Grrrr

 

[pvanbenschoten]

Dennis, My comment about using a NAPA muffler was for the non-stock vertical setup that is on my 127. I do wear hearing protection, but my thoughts were more about the quiet neighborhood I live in. Or did you mean that Charlie sells other mufflers? - I just browsed CC Specialties and he does have something that looks similar to what I have.

Kraig, Thanks for that link, and Thanks to David Kirk for writing that. I may try that with the old muffler once I remove it from the 147.

 

[dfrisk]

PAUL - The common up-right muffler used on CC's, like on Bryan McMeen's tractor bottom of this page is from a FARMALL CUB. The CUB had a 60 CID in-line 4-cyl engine that ran from 1400 to 1800 RPM depending on vintage. That muffler quiets a Kohler in a CC but not really that much more than the OEM muffler.

I guess I really don't worry about NOISE that much when I mow. Even with the straight pipe on my #72 I can hear every Harley & Dodge Cummins pickup that goes by when I'm running it in the yard.

I've spent thousands of hours on old farm tractors..... I'm surprised I can hear at all. The old green ones were the worst. But a FARMALL M, Super M, 400/450 with the OEM factory muffler had a good bark under full load too. Even some of the semi-tractors I drove were loud, a little Detroit Diesel V6 or V8 was really noisy too. You don't realize how noisy until you've driven 3-4 hours and have 5-6 more hours to go.

Your NAPA store may be different than mine but Iknow my store would not have anything for a CC muffler other than the stock pepper-pot like used on CCO's 70/100's. A farm supply store or Case/NH/IH implement dealer would have the CUB muffler. Most dealers around here in WIS sell "Stanley" Mufflers, they seem to be quieter than the OEM mufflers were years ago.

 

[thoffman]

Dennis, That V-6 "Fuel Pincher" was bad news. 8-( The rumble in those "S" series was headaches just waiting to happen.

 

[astrawderman]

I need help guys, I am trying to get the elbow out of the exhaust port on my cub. I am having no luck. It seems to have some kind of bead lock ring around the elbow like this

Is there a trick to getting this off. Also, should I heat the elbow or is that harmful to the block? Any help would be great. thanks

 

[jbaker]

Andrew ,that is a lock nut hit with some penatrating oil then tap on the ears with hammer and screwdriver it should loosen enough to unscrew the exhaust like a regular nut. yes you may have to heat it some.

 

[digger]

Andrew S.
IMO, unless you have a really good reason to remove it, don't!
Sometimes the threads are rusted away and you'll have to re-tap it to get it back in.

 

[astrawderman]

Charlie, I was removing it so I could put in a straight piece of galvanized pipe so I could put a stack on. Is there a better way to build a stack for it? By the way, what does IMO mean?

 

[pfunk]

I finally got everything fixed and working on my groundsaw. I'm anxious to try digging with it but it's either been too muddy or the ground's been frozen. Now it's just a matter of waiting for warm weather to try it out and do some painting.

I kept a pretty good record of the work as I was fixing everything up. It's more detail then anyone would want unless they were rebuilding a gound saw, but if you're interested you can read about it here

 

[thoffman]

Andrew "S", IMO= In My Opinion

 

[mfrade]

In My Opinion, (IMO) don't put a stack on it! They look goofy IMO and may cause damage to the hood paint and / or the block!

But it is your tractor!

 

[lbuttke]

Andrew S.

Only safe way to add a stack that I know of is to add it to the end of the OEM muffler.
Heres an example.

Pipe bent at local auto shop and welded onto end of factory muffler.
All weight is supported by factory attaching points of factory muffler.

 

[astrawderman]

Lonny, what I was planning on doing was once I got the exhaust out and away from the hood was to put a chrome pipe over the galvanized pipe and put a muffler clamp over that. Also I was going to bend a piece of galvanized steel that would bolt to the head of the engine and to another clamp on the stack to give it support.

 

[trutherford]

Is there a such thing as a cub cadet 1600 or a 1650 non hydro

 

[jchamberlin]

Vincent: Thanks for posting the pictures of your family's collection --a narrow and a wide frame each, kind of interesting. They all look great to me!