This is dang near a week late but thanks Curtis Sanderson for the input. Amazing how when you take time off to do nothing, alot of somethings always come up. I'll call them when their open next. Amazing where the 1200 will go with new ags and 50# each side, but not on the 4X8 tilt trailer, ice covered wood too slick. Now to finish the 2 year lift rod project. Keep up the great site guys!