Archive through December 18, 2013

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Allthough we don`t see things the same I would love to have all your Cub and Scouts .

 

[drglinski]

Update: it's 34 degrees out so I decided to see if the 147 would start better. Not plugged in to the charger, and after about 2-3 revolutions she started just fine. Better than yesterday; also warmer outside. I guess my cub is like a lot of people; it doesn't like to go outside to work when it's cold out.

 

[hydroharry]

Daniel - if your 147 started in 2-3 revolutions at 34 degrees it's doing great!!!! And I wouldn't be worrying about any type of starting problem to investigate. I'm not saying the little heater isn't a good idea. If you expect to experience temps in the 0 range, it's a good idea to help ensure it will start and will have good lubrication when it does.

For what it's worth, I found every CC Kohler unit I had (maybe 30 or so) would seem to start a little different, and you had to experience and learn how best to start it. Most would seem to start best/quickest with full choke and half throttle. Most required full choke reduced to half or less immediately to avoid stalling. Some required a little more throttle to keep running. The more seat time you get on your unit, the more it becomes a part of you and you know what's best for your unit. Have fun out there.

 

[mpatterson]

Don T,

Tell the wife your storing them for ME! Will she know the difference?

 

[jharder]

Good evening all,
I got a 982 that is driving me crazy. Long story short version is I put a new carb on it ran fine, for awhile. I have adjustes and tweaked all that I can but it still surges very bad. UNLESS you run it with full choke. then it runs just fine. I would just about bet the farm its something dumb I am not seeing. Any info would be very helpfull. Thanks Jim

 

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Jim Harder

I would bet you have a gas issue. Blocked by dirt or some thing.Running fine with some choke means ,Less air and a richer mixture.Float needle and seat back to a filter or a tank cap plugged.

 

[mhorozko]

So I read the posts on tires. My 122 is still rolling on it's 1968 rubber.Their hard, checked well, ugly. Can I still get Firestone 23x8.50x12 and Goodyear 16x6.50x8 Goodyear terra. Where? Maybe one of the advertizers here?

 

[nbextermueller]

Micheal,

Google M.E. Miller tire company.

 

[dcalkins]

Michael p try tucker tire ,. at tucker tire .com

 

[drglinski]

I'm likely going to look into the rear end heater for helping my hydro start easier in the winter. That's one thing I dislike about a hydro; you can't easily separate the engine from the rear end to start <u>just</u> the engine like you can a gear drive.

 

[tbdavis]

Evening all. Have a couple old tractors that have sat for awhile and curious if anyone has any suggestions for cleaning sludge out of the oil pans without removing the engines. Oil clearly needs changed and not planning to run them much till they're tidied up. Thought about a little kerosene down the tube after I drain the old oil and then draining off the kerosene? Anyway, just looking for a shortcut if possible. Thanks.

 

[hydroharry]

Terry D - say you raised some good questions there and I'm anxious to see what others say. I think the kerosene down the oil fill tube would work to clean any sludge out of the pan. You'd probably have to leave it sit in the pan for awhile, and then leave the drain plug out a few days to allow it fully drain out and clear off. Then re-install the plug of course, and fill with some new fresh oil, maybe put 1/4oz in the spark plug hole and begin slow rotation by hand before attempting any starting. This is what I'd do. Of course this also assumes you've checked both the fuel and spark parts of the system as well, and are satified they are ok, or at least worth giving a try.

 

[jharder]

That is something I have thought of also. But to me it sound more like a govenor issuse. The reason I say that is because it surges so hard and very consistant.I am not ruleing the dirt part out but I have never seen dirt make one bounce off the govenor that consistant. I have always found dirt to be more inconsistant. But that is worth looking into. Thanks Jim

 

[dkirk]

Wayne Shytle - Your e-mail address is no good - all my return e-mails bounce.

Here are a couple of tips for improving cold weather starting on your Cub:

1) Use fresh, winter blend gasoline. Using fuel that was purchased in the summer will hinder starting in cold weather as the fuel vapor pressure is lower.

2) Use a battery maintainer (not a trickle charger) and keep it connected when the tractor is not in use. This maintains a full charge without overcharging (and thus damaging the battery).

3) After running the tractor, shut off the fuel and let the engine die from fuel exhaustion (don't forget to turn the ignition off and remove the key!). This leaves the carburetor dry during non-operational times. What happens is the lighter ends of the fuel evaporate as the bowl vent is to atmosphere. Fuel is replenished from the tank, but an accumulation of heavy fuel ends builds up in the bowl and this is harder to vaporize compared to the large volume of stored fuel that's in the tank. This combined with slow cranking speeds results in poorer cold weather starts.

4) Using the techniques above, don't run the engine until necessary. Just running the engine without a load for short time periods causes condensation to form in the crankcase, which ultimately gets into the oil.

5) My opinion - the best oil to use year-round in these Kohler engines is Mobil 1 10W-30. Change every 50 hours.

Wishing a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all the fine folks on this great forum.

Dave Kirk

 

[kostendorf]

My 1650 starts at 40deg. like it starts at 80deg., as soon as electricity hits the sparkplug it fires. My garage very seldom gets below 40deg. Maybe for a day if its 10deg. outside. My question is since it starts so easy, should I leave the 30 weight in or change to lighter oil. This is all I do to keep my baby warm, its own wool blanket.

 

[hydroharry]

David Kirk - well Happy Holidays to you back there behind the CHEESE CURTAIN!!!

I agree with your points 1, 2 and 3.

No. 4 makes sense even tho I used to start and run mine every few weeks, but with your explanation it's probably a good idea. Now, for

No. 5 I don't disagree but can you explain your recommendation any further.

And No. 6 - "Muglety Wump-Muglety Wump...Glackus-Glackus!" - well, you better check your timing. Mine goes Muglety Wump - Glaskus-Glackus - va-vooommmm, mmmmmmmmmmmm

- that's one less Muglety Wump

 

[mmasheris]

Jim 99% of the time it is never the govenor on the Onan twins I have 2 I know it is a fuel problem making it hunt chech fuel flow and your fuel pump that in run by crankace vaccum.Some times replacing the diagraphms in the pump will help othe wise open the main jet

 

[mhomrighausen]

Daniel G. Make sure you use the hydro dump valves. I use Interstate batteries and Steve B. has good luck with the Tractor Supply Briggs batteries. If necessary then you actually can install a clutch on your 147.

Off to work. Everyone have a great day.

 

[tkhoffman]

Jim H have you played with moving the positions on the Governor rod?
It does sound like you may want to drop the Carb Bowl and see if you gathered garbage from the gas tank but governor surging is sometimes fixed by moving that governor rod to a different hole.