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- Steve Blunier "Mr. Plow" (Central IL)
As Don says, with a thrower that has been completely gone through, they are a great performance "hop-up"....but, they take more HP to run. You will need HP to run a 42" with a speed up pulley, I know my 18hp 782 and get brought to it's knees by my hot 42" thrower if I feed it hard enough.
If you have a hydro with a good strong 14hp or better and a very well maintained thrower, dropping to a 1/2" smaller sheave makes it a monster....
If you have a hydro with a good strong 14hp or better and a very well maintained thrower, dropping to a 1/2" smaller sheave makes it a monster....
Amy J. Kleyla
I have a 42" single stage snow thrower with the speed up pulley and a good working 149 ; I had thought about using that combo and I have a 450 snow blower and a 1512 diesel to mount that on . I really don`t know which would be the best combination.I do know that both snow throwers and blowers like lots of HP to work there best. It really depends on the operator as to how they work. If you feed any of them to much snow to fast the engine will stumble. So to how good they work depends on how your engine is set up (how strong it is) as to what it can handle. I do have a great working 10 here that I think will put a not so hot working 12 to shame. My .02
I have a 42" single stage snow thrower with the speed up pulley and a good working 149 ; I had thought about using that combo and I have a 450 snow blower and a 1512 diesel to mount that on . I really don`t know which would be the best combination.I do know that both snow throwers and blowers like lots of HP to work there best. It really depends on the operator as to how they work. If you feed any of them to much snow to fast the engine will stumble. So to how good they work depends on how your engine is set up (how strong it is) as to what it can handle. I do have a great working 10 here that I think will put a not so hot working 12 to shame. My .02
proessler
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Amy, looks like you have creeper drive? Speedup pulley will definitely give better performance. But a Hydro gets every ounce of blower performance by virtue of Infinite speed control to make your engine Bark it's loudest!
Frank:
Farmall51 always puts together great videos. I liked the one of ben frankin on the electric 95. HAHA.
Tom H
That video reminds me of my folk's place. They live on approx. 1 acre give or take and when the kids got to using both the 125 AND the 782 to mow the grass would be cut in a ridiculous amount of time.
Farmall51 always puts together great videos. I liked the one of ben frankin on the electric 95. HAHA.
Tom H
That video reminds me of my folk's place. They live on approx. 1 acre give or take and when the kids got to using both the 125 AND the 782 to mow the grass would be cut in a ridiculous amount of time.
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Paul, yes I do have a creeper drive but I have a manual transmission so I use 1st gear usually. I think I might have to try a speedup pulley an see if there is any difference in how the thrower responds. My 10 HP is a strong motor still,an the way its set up now it still works great,but sometimes theres a way to make things work better.
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Amy - all the discussions have been about using a speed up pulley on a "QA" thrower and since you have a "CW" I was concerned the gears in your right angle gear box may be different. I did just check the parts listing and it shows same gear part numbers as used in the QA42A. So, you have 2:1 ratio gears (16 teeth and 32 teeth).
I'm going to assume your original pulley is the same size as the QA (I believe they were all the same). So, you could certainly make your CW thrower spin faster if you changed to a 3 and 1/2" pulley.
I seem to recall you showing pics of your thrower last year after you had gone over it. I believe you installed new auger bearings but not sure what else. So if you install the smaller pulley everything will be rotating much faster and you really do take it to the max. The bearings and gears in your gearbox will spin faster, the driveshaft will spin faster, the small chain sprocket (with needle bearings) will spin faster and the auger and auger bearings will spin faster. All this means more heat/friction so you must have good lubrication on all these (plenty of grease). The Operator manual for the QA thrower says to lubricate the unit every time before use. I would certainly do this if you make the speed-up pulley change.
So, what kind of results can you expect? The key to using a single stage is feeding the auger. Not fast enough and the snow will trickle out the shute or even just fall back across the front of the thrower. To fast and the thrower will bog down the engine and the thrower won't spin to correct speed to thro the snow.
Since you don't have a Hydro tractor you can't "infinitely" vary your tractor speed to feed the auger based on snow conditions (light/heavy/deep/etc) for max performance. BUT, since you do have a Creeper you have a choice of 6 forward speeds (well really more like 5 truly possible - I doubt anyone with a gear drive could throw snow in 3rd gear with the Creeper in hi).
The nice thing about this "speed-up mod" is that it's not really expensive and easy to convert back to original. It only requires the smaller pulley, and maybe a shorter belt.
You can "try it and see if you like it". But be cautious here. Everything and I mean everything, is rotating much faster than before. Any little stones you may have run across before that came zinging out of the chute, and went 20-30 feet - well they will be coming out faster as well and likely go 40-50 feet - which may mean they hit your neighbors house windows, or car windows, etc.
So be cautious and be careful BUT HAVE FUN with it.
I'm going to assume your original pulley is the same size as the QA (I believe they were all the same). So, you could certainly make your CW thrower spin faster if you changed to a 3 and 1/2" pulley.
I seem to recall you showing pics of your thrower last year after you had gone over it. I believe you installed new auger bearings but not sure what else. So if you install the smaller pulley everything will be rotating much faster and you really do take it to the max. The bearings and gears in your gearbox will spin faster, the driveshaft will spin faster, the small chain sprocket (with needle bearings) will spin faster and the auger and auger bearings will spin faster. All this means more heat/friction so you must have good lubrication on all these (plenty of grease). The Operator manual for the QA thrower says to lubricate the unit every time before use. I would certainly do this if you make the speed-up pulley change.
So, what kind of results can you expect? The key to using a single stage is feeding the auger. Not fast enough and the snow will trickle out the shute or even just fall back across the front of the thrower. To fast and the thrower will bog down the engine and the thrower won't spin to correct speed to thro the snow.
Since you don't have a Hydro tractor you can't "infinitely" vary your tractor speed to feed the auger based on snow conditions (light/heavy/deep/etc) for max performance. BUT, since you do have a Creeper you have a choice of 6 forward speeds (well really more like 5 truly possible - I doubt anyone with a gear drive could throw snow in 3rd gear with the Creeper in hi).
The nice thing about this "speed-up mod" is that it's not really expensive and easy to convert back to original. It only requires the smaller pulley, and maybe a shorter belt.
You can "try it and see if you like it". But be cautious here. Everything and I mean everything, is rotating much faster than before. Any little stones you may have run across before that came zinging out of the chute, and went 20-30 feet - well they will be coming out faster as well and likely go 40-50 feet - which may mean they hit your neighbors house windows, or car windows, etc.
So be cautious and be careful BUT HAVE FUN with it.
PAUL R. - I just moved "Shortino's 1/2" to 1 inch of snow from yesterday & last night.
I better send my Stanley Power-Loc tape in to be recalibrated.... sure looked like THREE inches of snow to me.
Took my wife TWO and a HALF HOURs to get the 25 miles home from work on the Beltline last night. NEW record! When I worked in Brookfield, on bad days My 60 mi. commute was always quicker than her's. Even the Friday afternoon they closed the west bound lanes of I-94 because of the Rock River flooding back in June of '08 and I had to get home by way of Whitewater after being stuck in traffic around Waukesha for close to an hour, I still made it home in just under 2-1/2 hrs.
To keep this post on-topic, I did SIT on my 72's seat when I was in the shop waiting for the Farmall's block heater to warm up.
I better send my Stanley Power-Loc tape in to be recalibrated.... sure looked like THREE inches of snow to me.
Took my wife TWO and a HALF HOURs to get the 25 miles home from work on the Beltline last night. NEW record! When I worked in Brookfield, on bad days My 60 mi. commute was always quicker than her's. Even the Friday afternoon they closed the west bound lanes of I-94 because of the Rock River flooding back in June of '08 and I had to get home by way of Whitewater after being stuck in traffic around Waukesha for close to an hour, I still made it home in just under 2-1/2 hrs.
To keep this post on-topic, I did SIT on my 72's seat when I was in the shop waiting for the Farmall's block heater to warm up.
The 147 has been starting more difficult the last two days. Things to consider:
-It's in a garage, unheated.
-It has a new battery last winter with approx. 50 CCA.
-cleaned the grounds/connections this past summer.
-new plug last winter.
-I have a trickle charger on the batt. and always plug it in the night before I want to use it.
-The air filter was cleaned after fall.
-It's got 87 octane gas in it, about 2-3 weeks old, treated with sta bil (the regular red stuff.)
-It's been bitter cold as of late. I'm talking like lows of 6 and highs of 20 with 10 degree wind chills.
-It starts after one revolution in warmer temps.
-It has 10W30 oil in the crankcase.
-I used it last winter and had no real issues.
I've looked into a rear end heater so I'm aware of that. It's not that it's not turning over quickly enough, it's almost like the gasoline won't catch as quickly as normal. I'm going to check the spark plug for fouling tomorrow, and replace if necessary.
Could the bitter cold temps as of late cause the gas to not want to vaporize properly so the motor doesn't start as quickly? I'm just trying to pin down why my 147 is taking longer to start.
Thanks
-It's in a garage, unheated.
-It has a new battery last winter with approx. 50 CCA.
-cleaned the grounds/connections this past summer.
-new plug last winter.
-I have a trickle charger on the batt. and always plug it in the night before I want to use it.
-The air filter was cleaned after fall.
-It's got 87 octane gas in it, about 2-3 weeks old, treated with sta bil (the regular red stuff.)
-It's been bitter cold as of late. I'm talking like lows of 6 and highs of 20 with 10 degree wind chills.
-It starts after one revolution in warmer temps.
-It has 10W30 oil in the crankcase.
-I used it last winter and had no real issues.
I've looked into a rear end heater so I'm aware of that. It's not that it's not turning over quickly enough, it's almost like the gasoline won't catch as quickly as normal. I'm going to check the spark plug for fouling tomorrow, and replace if necessary.
Could the bitter cold temps as of late cause the gas to not want to vaporize properly so the motor doesn't start as quickly? I'm just trying to pin down why my 147 is taking longer to start.
Thanks
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