Archive through December 12, 2012

[jbaker]

Scott

Welcome,,
I do not have excperience with electric lifts, But don't excpect it to lift a 800 pound tractor.

Some one will chime in with the lifts capabilities soon..

 

[mschutz]

Scott L, I have a 126 with a electric lift. That is my plow tractor and it does just fine pulling the Brinly out of the ground. I just rebuilt it 2 years ago with parts from Charlie. I don't think I would expect it to lift the tractor. And NO I would not alter it.

 

[slent]

Melody, I would think that it would require at least the same amount of force to lift a plow, in an arc no less, with a Cub Cadet sleeve hitch as it would the relatively level lift of a 3-point hitch. Maybe my actuator is just tired, and needs a rebuild. I should probably check the battery voltage as well under load. Maybe the voltage / current is low, even though it doesn’t seem any more powerful when the engine is running near full throttle.

 

[jjsmith]

I can't speak from experience here as I have no electric lift equipped tractors, but I would say even with a tip-top actuator a spring assist would be a must and even then depending on the load is it lifting the life of the actuator would be relatively short. I say this because you mentioned cat 0 3pt. With a sleeve hitch application and spring assist would produce better results. Just my 2¢

 

[mschutz]

Scott, when I got the 126 the lift would not pick up anything even though it still would move up and down the screw. It doesn't really matter what RPM the engine is running at. I believe it just needs to be rebuilt. CC Specialties, one of the sponsers above has all the parts you will need.

 

[hydroharry]

Melody - good to see you pop in. Haven't seen you for awhile. I didn't know you were into the electric lift. What's your 127 got to lift that thrower in your profile?

Scott L - welcome to the Forum. You just found the jackpot for information on IH Cub Cadets. Your posting mentions restoring the 126 but you also wanted to add a Cat.0 three-point. You might want to provide more info on what you intend to do with this three-point vs obtaining an original IH version. Also, I think you'll find many of us don't really care for the electric lift, but then those that do (apparently like Melody) really like them. I admit I never cared for them because I only ever saw them on a 147 and they didn't work well on the units I saw, and all the stories back in my really active era indicated they were not a good feature. I don't know their life span once rebuilt but it sure sounds like Melody is happy with hers. Your 126 could have also been equiped with an optional hydraulic lift. They are pretty scarce but seem to be loved by those that have them as well, once they are in good operating condition. I only mention the hydraulic lift so you're aware. I would suggest you investigate all your options before jumping to far into what you have. You'll find the electric lift parts are somewhat pricey in my view so also make sure you consider a complete rebuilt unit. I'm not sure what you might find for a hydraulic lift. You could also of course revert back to a manual lift by obtaining some fairly common used parts, but for most implements except maybe just a mowing deck you might want to consider adding a spring assist if you go back to the manual lift (sometimes jokingly called an Armstrong or Strong Arm lift). Again, knowing what you intend to use the tractor for would be helpful to obtain the best suggestions on what you should really consider. Lets us know and I'm certain many will chime in.

 

[slent]

Well, I have to admit, the purpose of this project is primarily to build a big, but useful toy. I have convinced myself (and my wife) that I can use the tractor to do the work around the yard that my 2130 can’t do all that well anymore, such as pulling a box blade, pulling the cart loaded with firewood, etc. I realize I could try to find the parts and spend the money to put together a sleeve hitch, but the cat 0 three-point hitch as a coolness factor, and since I’d like to show the tractor, I’m kind of leaning in that direction. I have a de-thatcher attachment that I was planning to make work with the three-point hitch as well.
I was not aware that the 126 had a hydraulic option. I thought the only way to get that was with the hydrostatic versions. I’ve not seen that in any of the parts diagrams for the 126, although I have seen picture of some other older models with a pump and tank coming out of the right side of the hood at the clutch end of the engine. Is that the type of unit that was used on the 126 as well?
From what Melody says, I think my electric actuator is in need of a rebuild, as I can slow its movement with just pressure from my hand. I thought of using a new ball-screw linear actuator, but I’d like to keep that portion of the tractor original if I can. Since I do intend to use the tractor for grading and other jobs around the yard, I’d like to maintain a powered lift of some sort. One of my big draws to this tractor, when I was looking for a project, was its electric lift.

 

[hydroharry]

Scott L - yes the hydraulic lift option you describe from older units is the one I was thinking of. But, I see now the 1x6/7 Operator Manual does not list it as an option. It is listed in the 1x4/5 manual as optional and I didn't realize until now that IH didn't continue it for the 1x6/7, especially since it's generally referred to as a hydraulic lift option for narrow frame tractors. In fact, in the Manuals section of the Forum, under Options, it lists NF Hydraulic Install and Operator Manual. I don't know why it couldn't be added except that the 1x6/7 dash may conflict somehow with the mounting or something like that. Maybe someone on here actually has it on a 1x6/7 and will pipe in with comments.
It does sound like you intend or would like to do some fairly significant work with your tractor so it you want to restore and maintain the original integrity it looks like you'll want to go with the electric lift. I'm sure Melody and others can address any questions.
One other thing you didn't mention is whether you have a Creeper drive. This was an optional gear box that provided a low range gear in each shift position. It is a highly desired option and if you're gonna restore or go thru your clutch assembly it would be an ideal time to add it.
If you can post some pics of this unit that followed you home it would be nice to see before you start your restorations. Heck there is even a Restorations thread page you can post to and discuss your progress and get specific input. I'd still recommend this thread for general questions - especially since your question on the hydraulic lift option allowed me the opportunity to learn something I never realized (hard to admit I don't know everything, but gear drives aren't my specialty as you might note from my signature)

 

[brhodes]

Scott,
Welcome. I just put on my first spring assist that I got from Chris W. Best money I spent in a while. Now thinking of adding one to my 109 as well to help with the front blade.

Harry,
Thank you that's what I was thinking with drilling the 3 pt pin for the tiller but wanted to get some input on leverage and lift height changes. After looking it over I think your right. It has a lot of lift and the chains give it lot of adjustment for height.

 

[brhodes]

It was a hard day in the shop.