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The IH-464362-R1 transfers to Cub Cadets new part number 954-0226. They are one in the same.
The IH-464362-R1 transfers to Cub Cadets new part number 954-0226. They are one in the same.
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<font size="-2">"By Dave Ross (Dross) on Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 02:16 pm:
Tristan, I just went out to the place and measured the throw on my 72 I got right at an inch and a half of movement at the lower edge of the throwout arm (10)."
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Dave I was able to run out quick and check a few things just now. After actually measuring the throw of the bottom edge is just about 1.25-1.5"
<font size="-2">"PostBy Richard Palmer (Rpalmer) on Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 02:18 pm:
Tristan Stewart,
You don't say so here is a question for you. When you depress the clutch pedal how much space is there between parts #6,7 and 8?"</font>
When I depress the clutch none of these move. The throwout piece #10 moves, #5 becomes a little loose - I can physically pull it away from #6 maybe 1/4", #6,7,8 dont move, and there is about 1" between 6 and 8, and 7 is up against 6.
The motor mounts (sorry I thought you were talking about something else - when Kraig explained it I see were you were going) seem fine, I tried pushing on the motor side to side and around and I cant get any kind of movement out of it at least by hand.
Tristan, I just went out to the place and measured the throw on my 72 I got right at an inch and a half of movement at the lower edge of the throwout arm (10)."
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Dave I was able to run out quick and check a few things just now. After actually measuring the throw of the bottom edge is just about 1.25-1.5"
<font size="-2">"PostBy Richard Palmer (Rpalmer) on Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 02:18 pm:
Tristan Stewart,
You don't say so here is a question for you. When you depress the clutch pedal how much space is there between parts #6,7 and 8?"</font>
When I depress the clutch none of these move. The throwout piece #10 moves, #5 becomes a little loose - I can physically pull it away from #6 maybe 1/4", #6,7,8 dont move, and there is about 1" between 6 and 8, and 7 is up against 6.
The motor mounts (sorry I thought you were talking about something else - when Kraig explained it I see were you were going) seem fine, I tried pushing on the motor side to side and around and I cant get any kind of movement out of it at least by hand.
Oh and for easier reference, here is the picture again I am going buy for all my part # references. I dont know if the clutches varied by model, but just for reference this is from a Cub 1000 Quiet Line. Thanks again for all the assistance so far
mgonitzke
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If 5, 6, and 7 are separating, the problem is in the clutch driver. Since it's a QL, I bet the spherical ball bushing is bad, and possibly the whole clutch driver is cracked somewhere. Either would cause it to bind.
The only other thing I got is look at the throw out bearing 3 if that has failed it won't pull far enough. With everythin off, lock the pedal down and reach in there and see if you can feel whats tight. If the clutch disc is "loose" but the shaft still tight mabey Matts got it figured out.
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By Josh Ott (Jott) on Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 04:56 pm:
Ryan W; Are you going to post your spreadsheet when you are done with it? <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
Josh O. (and anyone else interested),
Attached is the Excel form with the data I was able to collect. Ten dual tube engines were reviewed.
The conclusions I was able to derive from this small sampling of data:
-- Of the data collected, the tractors with dual tube engines ranged from Serial # 336584 to 391854; leading me to believe at least 55,270 units were produced with them.
-- Of the data collected, the dual tube engines ranged from Serial # 2061260 to 4378068; leading me to believe at least 2,316,808 dual tube engines were produced.
-- Of the data collected, 8 of the 10 engines were 14HP (K321A model) engines. 2 of the 10 engines were 12HP (K301A model) engines.
-- Of the data collected, 9 of the 10 engines had a Spec code # designated for Replacement/Universal Service Engine use. 1 of the 10 engines had a Spec code # designated for Tractor use.
-- Of the data collected, 9 of the 10 engines were produced in 1970-1971. 1 of the 10 engines was produced in 1972.
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Dual Tube Engine Data Comparison
WW3 - Cub Engines Comparisons.xls (19.5 k)</td></tr></table></center>
My Conclusions:
- There was much more than just a handful of these dual tube engines produced!
- The majority of these engines were intended for Replacement/Service engine use.
- The dual tube engines were manufactured for only 1-2 years.
<font size="+1"><font color="0000ff">I'd like to thank all of you that shared your 'dual tube' engine & tractor information!</font></font>
I had fun chasing & gathering this info. I hope you find it interesting as well!
Ryan Wilke
By Josh Ott (Jott) on Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 04:56 pm:
Ryan W; Are you going to post your spreadsheet when you are done with it? <!-/quote-!><hr size=0></blockquote>
Josh O. (and anyone else interested),
Attached is the Excel form with the data I was able to collect. Ten dual tube engines were reviewed.
The conclusions I was able to derive from this small sampling of data:
-- Of the data collected, the tractors with dual tube engines ranged from Serial # 336584 to 391854; leading me to believe at least 55,270 units were produced with them.
-- Of the data collected, the dual tube engines ranged from Serial # 2061260 to 4378068; leading me to believe at least 2,316,808 dual tube engines were produced.
-- Of the data collected, 8 of the 10 engines were 14HP (K321A model) engines. 2 of the 10 engines were 12HP (K301A model) engines.
-- Of the data collected, 9 of the 10 engines had a Spec code # designated for Replacement/Universal Service Engine use. 1 of the 10 engines had a Spec code # designated for Tractor use.
-- Of the data collected, 9 of the 10 engines were produced in 1970-1971. 1 of the 10 engines was produced in 1972.
<center><table border=1><tr><td>
WW3 - Cub Engines Comparisons.xls (19.5 k)</td></tr></table></center>
My Conclusions:
- There was much more than just a handful of these dual tube engines produced!
- The majority of these engines were intended for Replacement/Service engine use.
- The dual tube engines were manufactured for only 1-2 years.
<font size="+1"><font color="0000ff">I'd like to thank all of you that shared your 'dual tube' engine & tractor information!</font></font>
I had fun chasing & gathering this info. I hope you find it interesting as well!
Ryan Wilke
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well fellers warm up the brand, i added another one to the heard!
picked up this little jem for $free.99 its a 125 its got a cracked block, the guy i got it from was a mechanic, he said he rebuilt the motor and used it twice before it cracked... he wasnt to happy, its got a real clean deck with it, he also said the PTO is brand new he said he put it on with the rebuilt motor, ill get better pics in the AM
the only things its missing is the starter generator and carb, other that its complete, unfortunately i think this one is getting parted
have a good cub day!
picked up this little jem for $free.99 its a 125 its got a cracked block, the guy i got it from was a mechanic, he said he rebuilt the motor and used it twice before it cracked... he wasnt to happy, its got a real clean deck with it, he also said the PTO is brand new he said he put it on with the rebuilt motor, ill get better pics in the AM
the only things its missing is the starter generator and carb, other that its complete, unfortunately i think this one is getting parted
have a good cub day!
