Archive through August 01, 2010

[lbuttke]

I went back through the archives, seems I purchased the motor thay is currently in my 100 back in Feb. 2007 when it came in the 127 I had purchased.
Funny thing is I dont ever remember this motor giveing me any problems running, in the cold of the winter is did not like to start when in the 127 hydro as it would not turn over fast enough to fire up with the driveshaft conected to the motor.

 

[sblunier]

<font size="+2">Blunier Fall Plow Day Announcement</font>

The Blunier's will once again host a fall plow day.

<font size="+2">Steve Blunier Farm, Roanoke, IL</font>
<font size="+2">Saturday Oct. 23rd - Rain Date Saturday Oct. 30th</font>

Friday night plowing as usual.

Please mark you calendars!!!!!

 

[mgonitzke]

Gerry and Dennis-

After looking through the book I have, as well as reading up on some stuff I found online, I'm going to have to stick with broad generalizations, as some of the equation terms are a bit over my head (More specifically, Weibull parameters. I've heard of them, but don't have any experience whatsoever with implementing them) and I'd need another book to figure out how to come up with reasonable values to use. Anyhow, using another equation, I estimate that the static radial load capacity of the roller bearings in the axle tubes is about 4400 lbs. I also read that when the load is doubled the life decreases by 90%, so I'm slightly worried about putting a lot of weight on the back of my loader tractor. Then again, I'm not sure what the design life of the original bearings was. Perhaps it was so astronomically high that 10% of that life wouldn't matter. For the price of axle bearings, perhaps it doesn't. Although, the axle shaft itself may wear, and that will be more expensive to fix as parts get scarce. The cyclops tractors have ball bearing axle tubes that don't use the axle itself as a bearing wear surface, so that could be better, but I don't think those axle tubes are as strong. Anyway, the 1872 that I put a CI rear in has 1900 hours, and the bearings and axles that came out of it looked brand new, but I replaced the bearings anyway. The 127 rear that the Aluminum rear guts were placed in had scored areas where the axle bearings rode, possibly due to lack of lubrication. I think the important thing here is to make sure that the Hytran is kept up, especially on machines that see a lot of abuse, i.e. loader tractors. If the fluid level drops below the axis of the rear axles and carrier, the bearings are not getting much lubrication.

 

[kide]

Matt:
Weibull parameters??

Does that include the wobble quotients that resist gravity??

 

[jbliler]

I believe Kraig has the photos of my CCO with the rd-300 loader when I first got it. It had a set of homemade weights that mounted to the rear loader frame. The rear axel bushings were worn through as well as most of the housing metal. The bearings were a great idea! Was well over 300lbs. Loader was well used. Cutting edge had a fair amount of wear.

 

[kide]

Seriously though, static capacity and operating capacity of the bearings must be different... I know the needle bearings must have been rated fairly high, just to account for the weight of IHC supplied accessories - for instance a tiller - plus the weight of the operator ( but they couldn't be held responsible for aftermarket products).
I can't recall right now - in any of the IH supplied advertising that showed third party accessories, was there a backhoe or loader??

 

[wcompton]

GEEZ! A guy just lurks around and sooner or later long-lost videos start to surface!

 

[hydroharry]

Wyatt C - hey send me your e-mail address (it's not in your profile). I might be stomping thru the Dakota Territory before year end and I'd like to see your 169

Hydro Harry
Old Cubs Never Die (they do take a rest now and then)

 

[dfrisk]

CHARLIE - I see those weights are CAST STEEL. Cast steel weighs more than cast iron. Actually a fair bit more. Cast iron actually has micro-porosity, as does steel but not as much. I could make a sarcastic comment about a foundry I used to deal with that makes "Boat Anchors" that some people have found won't sink because they have so much porosity but that's off-topic.

PAUL F. - More rear weight is a GOOD thing on loader tractors that's for sure. One thing I learned the hard way, don't lift and try to back up at the same time. I was trying to pull a bush years ago doing that, and the chain wasn't centered on the bucket, and the one rear wheel on the Super H got really light and spun a bit, I tapped the brake for that wheel, backed up a few more inches and that wheel came off the ground. Probably the closest I've ever been to laying a tractor on it's side. I don;t do that anymore!

I also never run the loader more than shoulder high, especially when carrying something heavy. If I have to raise something higher I always make sure I'm on level ground, then stop, raise the loader, and ease forward. Plus hyd. cylinders get really weak and can buckle when extended while raising heavy loads. I saw the loader on the Super H before Dad modified it to fit on the SH (It's a Ford loader) and the right side lift cyl. was bent/buckled into the letter "C".

MATT G., Gerry - Not sure of the design life of the CC rear wheel needle bearings either. But it's a long-long time. I swapped a pair of 123 axle carriers w/needle bearings onto my 72 when I installed the bigger engine a couple yrs ago. The factory bushings were wore and the oil seals leaked. When I'd jack the rear of the 72 up I could see the wheels "droop" as they lifted off the ground. When I pulled the axles the bushings actually looked in fairly decent shape, not worn thru into the axle at least. The 123 axle carriers took all that slop away, plus the 72 pushes easier now. There's actually a thin steel cage or housing around the outside of the needle bearing so the needles actually don't run on the casting, but they do run on the shaft. Also needle bearings don't have as load cap. as a ball bearing, the tiny needles are actually kinda fragile.

GERRY - Not sure about IH-approved backhoes on CC's but I know there were post hole diggers, trenchers, etc that added a whole lot of weight to CC's. Actually, with a hoe, the weight is supposed to be on the outriggers & loader bucket when in operation. But the weight is carried on the tractor when in motion.

 

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