Denny,
It's 2" wider than the duals, which makes it 60" wide!
It's 2" wider than the duals, which makes it 60" wide!
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Charlie, nice bucket!
Is Aaron going to add a cutting edge to the bottom and/or reinforcements around the opening of that? If not it'll get beat up in a hurry. I could sure use a bucket that size on my Allis.
Kraig,
You can bet that it will be made to withstand anything I can do with it.
Aaron mocks things up as he goes so things work right at the end. So your seeing the first fit to the loader in the pics.
Knowing him, it will be on and off the machine 4 or 5 times until it's perfect and it suits him.
He's to awful picky ya know!
You can bet that it will be made to withstand anything I can do with it.
Aaron mocks things up as he goes so things work right at the end. So your seeing the first fit to the loader in the pics.
Knowing him, it will be on and off the machine 4 or 5 times until it's perfect and it suits him.
He's to awful picky ya know!
Kinda like the weight box. It weighs something like 80 pounds by itself and by Aaron's calculations, should hold close to 500 pounds of weight inside.
mgonitzke
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Gerry-
If I get bored, I have a couple of books that discuss bearing life and have some equations for estimating their life. I've been wanting to run some calculations and see how much weight I can safely add to my loader without hurting the lifespan of the rear axle. Besides the axle tube bearings, the other thing I'd worry about is the strength of the axle where the flange is welded to the shaft, particularly on tractors with duals. I have heard of them breaking there before, so my loader tractor will not have duals on it.
And having said that, I probably will not have more than 400# on the rear of mine until I can prove to myself that more will not create problems further on down the line. I'm going to try to get most of that on the wheels.
I gotta get back to work on mine...I spent a couple days with classmates at the Oshkosh Airshow this past week. I'll put some pics in the sandbox after I sort through all of them.
If I get bored, I have a couple of books that discuss bearing life and have some equations for estimating their life. I've been wanting to run some calculations and see how much weight I can safely add to my loader without hurting the lifespan of the rear axle. Besides the axle tube bearings, the other thing I'd worry about is the strength of the axle where the flange is welded to the shaft, particularly on tractors with duals. I have heard of them breaking there before, so my loader tractor will not have duals on it.
And having said that, I probably will not have more than 400# on the rear of mine until I can prove to myself that more will not create problems further on down the line. I'm going to try to get most of that on the wheels.
I gotta get back to work on mine...I spent a couple days with classmates at the Oshkosh Airshow this past week. I'll put some pics in the sandbox after I sort through all of them.
MATT, GERRY - I know some of CC's competitors list maximum recommended axle weights for their lawn mowers. I've never seen anything listed for CC's.
I know I've seen 250# of iron with another 250# of live weight bounce up & down on the back of a CC 72 and pop the frt wheels off the ground. They're pretty tough. Pretty sure there were 2-3 pair of wheel weights not included in that total.
MATT - It would be interesting to see what your calculations show for weights. From what I've heard & read in not so technical of publications bearing life drops pretty drastically as weight or load increases. I seem to remember that as load is doubled, life expectancy is about 10% after a certain point, so the graph has a pretty steep drop after a while.
I agree with you on the welds on the axle flanges. The heat effected zone does some bad stuff to the parent parts. Very seldom have I seen a weld break on a CC, but the metal beside the weld stresses, fatigues, & breaks.
I did a little loader work late this AM/early this PM. Moved the concrete slabs we cut up a couple days ago out to the woods. I drug most of them, but carried the little one that weighed about 600#. Not sure I can pick 1500# with the Super H & loader.
I know I've seen 250# of iron with another 250# of live weight bounce up & down on the back of a CC 72 and pop the frt wheels off the ground. They're pretty tough. Pretty sure there were 2-3 pair of wheel weights not included in that total.
MATT - It would be interesting to see what your calculations show for weights. From what I've heard & read in not so technical of publications bearing life drops pretty drastically as weight or load increases. I seem to remember that as load is doubled, life expectancy is about 10% after a certain point, so the graph has a pretty steep drop after a while.
I agree with you on the welds on the axle flanges. The heat effected zone does some bad stuff to the parent parts. Very seldom have I seen a weld break on a CC, but the metal beside the weld stresses, fatigues, & breaks.
I did a little loader work late this AM/early this PM. Moved the concrete slabs we cut up a couple days ago out to the woods. I drug most of them, but carried the little one that weighed about 600#. Not sure I can pick 1500# with the Super H & loader.
Denny, would you be referring to this model 72?
I believe I have video proof of it and the operator bouncing violently through a furrow on the Plow Day 1 video... He did the same stunt at one of Travis' plow days on his 169. Here's that video
KRAIG - Yes! For a while He had a weight bracket above and behind the 3-point, forget exactly how it was attached, but was big enough for six bigger suitcase weights....from his former employer....42# each I think they were.
I need to hook the VCR up to my TV and rewatch the PD #1 video again. Who was Wyatt trying to kid with that SMV emblem on his t-shirt?
Ahhhh Try as hard as we do...We can't run these little Cubbies as hard as most pullers do...and for the most part they don't break even then!
Ohhh Kraig - Small snag in the QA-XX decal pic's. Wife forgot the camera at her work...so maybe in the next couple days. Sorry.
I need to hook the VCR up to my TV and rewatch the PD #1 video again. Who was Wyatt trying to kid with that SMV emblem on his t-shirt?
Ahhhh Try as hard as we do...We can't run these little Cubbies as hard as most pullers do...and for the most part they don't break even then!
Ohhh Kraig - Small snag in the QA-XX decal pic's. Wife forgot the camera at her work...so maybe in the next couple days. Sorry.
Denny, here's a photo of the weight bracket on Wyatt's 72:
UPDATE on my 100.
I found some time to work on my 100 over the weekend.
I had not noticed that the condenser was wired to the posative ( + ) post of the coil.
When I went to remove the coil and condenser from the 108 out back I noticed it is wired to the negative post on the coil.
SO I get out my Kohler manual and double check, YEP! it goes on the negative side.
Reinstall the old coil and condenser the correct way and it fires right up, runs as good as befor it died.
Don't know how long the condenser had been hooked to the posative side of the coil, as I have not had to mess with this 12hp since I picked up the 127 a couple years back.
I found some time to work on my 100 over the weekend.
I had not noticed that the condenser was wired to the posative ( + ) post of the coil.
When I went to remove the coil and condenser from the 108 out back I noticed it is wired to the negative post on the coil.
SO I get out my Kohler manual and double check, YEP! it goes on the negative side.
Reinstall the old coil and condenser the correct way and it fires right up, runs as good as befor it died.
Don't know how long the condenser had been hooked to the posative side of the coil, as I have not had to mess with this 12hp since I picked up the 127 a couple years back.
KRAIG - That's it. I thought it held six weights, but five is still 210# plus the bracket. Looks to be about 1/4" x 4" flat that picked up the top two axle carrier bolts that held the rearend to the frame channels. Bit of weight in the bracket alone.
That 73 next to the 72 was a nice little tractor too. Wasn't used much, but spent too many years parked in a chicken coop.
That 73 next to the 72 was a nice little tractor too. Wasn't used much, but spent too many years parked in a chicken coop.
Denny,
I just got a batch of those. 43 pounds each.
I just got a batch of those. 43 pounds each.
kphill
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Lonny, I am glad you got your tractor running again! I would go ahead and replace the points and condenser with new as that problem probably ruined them. It seems like when you have an electrical problem on these cubs most people point their finger at the coil, probably because it is so visible being it is out there front and center. But they also forget when autos had points ignition you had to change the points and condenser every so often and most of us kept a spare points and condenser in the glove compartment but I never knew of any one who kept a spare coil..
Kevin,
As soon as I get the call from my local cub dealer that the points and condencer is in I will be replaceing the ones on the 100.
Was supposed to have come in today, but where a no show, oh well theres always tomorrow.
As soon as I get the call from my local cub dealer that the points and condencer is in I will be replaceing the ones on the 100.
Was supposed to have come in today, but where a no show, oh well theres always tomorrow.
kphill
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Lonny, It is surprising it ran as long as it did like that, But these things are really over engineered so it is no wonder it has gone so long like that..
Dennis and Kraig, here's the weight bracket and weights I have on my 73 with the loader.
Each of the weights on the weight bracket are 30 pounds and there's an additional 30 pound weight on each side of the frame along side the seat. Each wheel has a little over 100 pounds of weight attached to it. I originally used the loader with only the wheel weights but almost flipped the loader over sideways when I was making a turn. Scared me into adding a lot more weight.
Each of the weights on the weight bracket are 30 pounds and there's an additional 30 pound weight on each side of the frame along side the seat. Each wheel has a little over 100 pounds of weight attached to it. I originally used the loader with only the wheel weights but almost flipped the loader over sideways when I was making a turn. Scared me into adding a lot more weight.
