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I'm thinking full face shield and ear protection for shredder operations.

It will make a great roped off display/demo unit this summer at tractor shows. I'm thinking Albert City, IA Aug 15-17. They are featuring IH this year.
 
David , Looking good, also setup so it discharges with the wind!
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you guy and this talk about Shredders - I just traded mine for a 1250 last week. My shredder sat in the corner of my shed for 6 or so years and the opportunity to trade come.

I think its time to get the mower decks on a couple of my Cubs.

The new 1250 is the faded one in this pic.
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Vincent - now that's a Quiet "Line".

And it don't matter the new to you 1250 is a bit faded. Use her up some so you know for certain how she operates - then you can give her the treatment.
 
When I use my 59m I always keep a stir stick on hand to unplug the intake hopper when it gets plugged up. if the chippers starts to clog just grind some of the stir stick off knock it loose.
 
I plan to take a 59M shredder to A.J.'s Garden Tractor Jamboree in Oregon, Illinois next month.
I like David's idea of having a couple demonstrations during the day. I'll have to check with the hosts to see if it is feasible.
Good idea on the face shield!
A.J.'s Garden Tractor Jamboree. May 17th. This is a fairly new and growing show with 200+ garden tractors (last year) of all kinds. Has a parade, teeter-totter balance, barrel races, some plowing, food and more. Very kid friendly.
 
Pictures of shredders and piles of chips in peoples yards. Mower decks being installed. What the heck, I'm looking at a inch of snow on the hood of my Jeep. Still snowing in Buffalo, N.Y.
 
Mike H - what ever you do please do "not" put your IH CC snow blade on the hood of your jeep. Your snow will melt (eventually).
 
Hello all, my second post here.

I had a IHCC 124 passed down to me that used to run rather well.

Now it struggles to start, when it does only runs for a few minutes, then starts to give out and backfires as it stops.

I pressure tested it and on a brand new battery it's all it can do to reach 70 PSI.

My 124 has a 12HP Kohler motor, no lights, push button and three position switch.

Looking for advice... My neighbor who is very familiar with rebuilding tractors says the motor is winded due to the tolerances being shot and that I'd need to have the cylinder worked, sleeved, and a +10 piston installed, likely the shaft turned, etc.

Thank you
 
Brian E - you need one of our Kohler engine specialists/experts/knowledgeable members to pipe in here but it doesn't sound to me like your neighbor is familiar with Kohler K series engines like in your IHCC 124 (I'm assuming your engine is a Kohler K301).

If your engine ran, blew alot of smoke, or had terrible blow back smoke thru the breather, burned alot of oil, and had no power, then what your neighbor describes might be in order (a major engine overhaul).

At this point what you describe sounds to me like a carb adjustment issue, possibly bad/old gas, or maybe even a blockage in the fuel line or the little vent in the gas cap is clogged up. You may have a basic tuneup issue like needing points/condensor/spark plug, or your timing may be off (points gap off) or even a coil failing. It could be a valve issue but I would think it would run longer than just a couple minutes. I'd probably start with the easiest and simplest like checking and changing the gas, make sure it's flowing, etc.
 
Brian - chiming in on what Harry sez - the K series engine has an automatic compression release that holds the exhaust valve open a smidgen when it's being cranked at very low speed. Due to this, you cannot get an accurate reading on a compression gauge. I agree with Harry's assessment of the probable cause..
 
Brian welcome,
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I got a 125 which is a sister to your 124, same engine, yes it does have an compression release, but if it makes you feel any better my engine gives me around 70 pounds compression if I test it, and it's still very strong running engine. I don't think your engine is bad
 
Bryan,yes indeed welcome .
1) Listen to the advice you have been given.
2) I also recommend that you go to www.binderbooks.com and order yourself: a) a 124 Operators Manual, b) a 124 Service Manual and c) the 124 section of the IH TC-113 Parts Manual. NOTE: Each of the above contains needed information NOT found in the others!

Myron B
 
Harry B - I'm not getting any of those issues... My father-in-law had it to three different small engine people up near where our camp was in the Adirondacks and no one could really sort it out although they all "cleaned" the carburetor... It's been in my barn under a tarp for two years since...

My Kohler is a K301A... I have the book on it but could not find if ~70 PSI was an acceptable cylinder pressure...

When she ran well, back in 2003 -> 2007ish it would sometimes start a little sluggish but it ran for hours and once she was warmed up she'd start much easier... Then one season she just decidedly didn't wanna go anymore...

The tractor is in great shape and I'm committed to getting the old girl going again...
 
Brian E ,the guys are right ,about the c/r ,if you just got the cub ,i would go to the top of page ,and look at binder books and get a manual ,from them its well worth the money ,to many folks think they know about tractors ,but he don,t know much if don,t know kohlers .and there are others engines that have them c/r as well .if there was no c/r you would not be able to start the engine ,hope this helps ,David
 
Thanks all...

Luckily I have:
-the original 37 page color owners manual
-the entire service manual for the K-Series
-the 15 page K-Series owners manual

I'll check the link provided for anything else I don't have...

Can anyone make a recommendation for a J8/H10 sparkplug replacement that I can find at Lowes/Homedepot/NAPA/etc? I did check for "equivalents" but I figure you guys are the best to ask...

I'll plan to drain the fuel out this weekend and check the points for pitting and gap...

Would having a video of the tractor trying to start help diagnostically for any of you helpful folks out there?
 
Brian E - well, since you got a 70psi reading and it was confirmed by others as common for a good running engine then it sure seems you don't have a compression problem, and don't have a crankshaft or piston or rod problem.

You really describe your problem as somewhat slow to start, but does, then runs for short time, backfires and dies. If you carb has been rebuilt a few times I'm going to assume that someone did a complete tune up (points sparkplug and condensor). I still wonder if they set the timing correctly. The points can be set dead nuts .020 and the timing will be way way off. .020 is just the initial setting so the engine can be started. From there you have to set the timing to the S or SP mark on the flywheel - and you do this by adjusting the gap on the points. Once you can verify this is all correct then the carb should be re-adjusted to fine tune it. After that if your engine still acts the same then I'm gonna jump out of a limb and say you may have a valve problem. You should probably start by checking the adjustment on the valves which is pretty easy to follow in the manual. You do have to remove the carb, then remove the breather cover (or valve cover). If this doesn't resolve the problem then you'll have to get with someone else on here to help visualize your actual valves - you'll need to remove your head to see the valves and diagnose. However, this is still "not" a major issue - in other words, if you need a new valve or valves ground it's still not a real major issue. It's still not a complete major overhaul. Going back to your neighbor's comments, it could be his position or shop always recommends a complete overhaul to avoid future problems - they just do everything so no one brings it back. A lot of the shops have this attitude - but unfortunately it makes simple fixes really costly.
 
Finally got my stepdad's garden tilled with the 73 Saturday before the rain came on Sunday. The 8hp K181 handled it well, and making a second pass definitely provided a deeper, more refined final result. Overall, a good run considering it was my first time trying out this thing...
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Video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qIEub4rwQI
 

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