Archive through April 09, 2014

[fcurrier]

Gerry: Follow your heart. Hydraulics are great - for doing anything except mowing. Sentiment can be expensive, but so can remorse. Harry can be right.

 

[drglinski]

A follow up on the hydraulics from my experience...

Dad has a 125 that we used for years for mowing and tilling. It has a manual lift. Dad's property has a gravel driveway. When I would mow around it, since the lift lever was on "float" I could pull up the deck, drive over the driveway, drop the deck and keep mowing.

Some years later Dad picks up a 782 with hydraulics that we only used for mowing. It was much more difficult to mow over the gravel driveway with the hydraulic lift compared to the manual lift of the 125. (for what it's worth; he's got a red CCC 782 with an aluminum rear end so he can't do much with it besides mowing anyway. He could put a front blade on it, but he uses a Farmall H for snow removal so it's kind of pointless for that)

I agree about hydraulic lift not being that important for mowing. For anything else it'd be great. A manual lift with a blade/tiller and NO spring assist can be a bear.

 

[kide]

Good comments... Although I put the deck on the 129 last summer, I use my (OT) Scag Tiger Cub for mowing. The 129 gets used for almost everything else - but since I'm not burning wood anymore, I'm not even using it for more than other yard work, but really want a driveway grader (I've got the box scraper...). The hacking I was referring to is things like independent rear brakes, that required cutting the fenders next to the frame for the *N style brake levers, the driveshaft totally FU'd, the voltage regulator hanging off the side of the gas tank. Then there is the loose steering, crappy tires...... I guess I'll get a price on rebuilding the 321 before I do anything. The purchase was an impulse item - I always wanted the hydraulics and the 149 ran (smoked pretty bad) but came with a 48" deck, a blade and a snowthrower for a C note...

 

[hydroharry]

Gerry - I guess I misunderstood your position on the 149. I thought you really wanted both units. You said now the 149 was an impulse buy and I'd say at a darn good price at that. I think that 129 would certainly be a nice unit to have the hydraulic lift on so I'd make the swap, and put the manual lift on the 149. I think you'll find rebuilding that 14hp is somewhat costly, and with your sentiment siding with the 129 you'll not want to put money into the 149. So my recommendation is take what you need off the 149. Since it's already somewhat hacked up just put the manual lift on it, and pass it along to someone wanting it more than you need it - but keep the deck, blade and thrower for yourself.

 

[jgoodine]

Well Gerry, these hurts to say but I would tend to agree with Harry, keep the tractor you enjoy using and have best memories with, I had a 1650 which I would or could burn every time I used it. Only thing I had for bout 4 years, it run for about half hour stints, then I got a narrow frame just for the tiller and now I'm a narrow frame guy.

 

[dschwandt]

Picked up a shredder today and it is missing belt tensioning support part #6, spring #18 and spring #19 as well as the guard #5.

Any one out there in Cub Land have one of these shredders and could possibly give me the dimensions of #6 so I can make one? would need the proper length of the rods that rest on the springs which slip down inside the support tubes.
I think I can source the springs at the hardware store. I have one of #18 and none of #19 which I think is the same spring only a different length.

The guard should be an easy make If I just had the dimensions also please.

Thanks Guys!

 

[bjamison]

Gerry I - my vote is to use the 149 parts to upgrade the 129. I recently read and commented to a guy's post on another forum. He was debating combining his Dad's old tractor with another one similar, but in better shape. In all of this my feeling was that at the end of the day, if you swapped out every part on the tractor, if you still had the original serial tag, you'd still have "Dad's" old tractor.

So if you moved parts from the 129 to the 149, including the serial tag, then I'd say you still got a 129.

Harry B - Oh keeper of 100 point knowledge

What's all this about an extra part required for the 3 point hitch to fit from my parts 122 over to my 126???? I thought this stuff was interchangeable - I'm almost ready to plow some ground!!!!

Also - did you mention cast iron clamp? Was that on a modern type QL type tractor? In the aftermath of my ill advised "bone headed engineer" or something similar (or not) comment, I've been talking comfort that at least when my QL was made, there was a McCormick at the IH helm...

 

[wbest]

I got the 782"s ready for mowing season. It looks like it will start a couple of weeks later this year here in Central Indiana. By the way, I enjoy driving the Hemi Charger almost as much as driving the Cub Cadets.

 

[hydroharry]

William B - now I can understand why. The Charger is pret'ner the same color as those 782's.

Bill QQ - the cast iron clamp was short lived and updated during the 1x9 series. And as for your transferring the 3point from a 122 to a 126, yup, you only need to add one part, all the others are exactly the same. Now that is commonality over a lengthy time and production period.

 

[mhomrighausen]

Gerry I. I'd take that smoking 14 horse Kohler off your hands anytime.... and rebuild it. I've always a use for another 14 horse Kohler.

Now that the weather has warmed up I need to get over and pick up an 18 hp overhead valve Kohler. ( Wonder if it will fit into a 1x8 frame without too much trouble?) However I've been working so much overtime I havent[ touched the cub Cadets in almost three months.

William B. Great pictures!!!

 

[fcurrier]

Wayne: Isn't the part on the right considered the "sleeve"?

Parts Lookup calls it "Lift Lever" and it's part of the "3 Point Hitch".

As I type this I think I see where your question to Harry comes from.

Dave: MSRP on just the single "Lower Hitch Link" is $58.81.

 

[wshytle]

Frank-

I believe you answered your own question. It's exactly that as I understand...a 3 pt hitch lift lever. Since the Brinly sleeve hitch adaptor has been used there and is so closely related to the lift the term seems to be sort of crossing over.

The only "sleeve" I'm aware of is the one that accepts the 5/8" pin and is the main part of the adaptor.

It'll probably just come down to "you call it what you want and I'll call it what I want" for some but the parts do have proper names/functions.

 

[dschwandt]

Frank, Did yer parts show up yet?

 

[bjamison]

Is there any other attachment that hooks up to the 3 point hitch? In other words, when you hook-up a tiller (or something else?) does it utilize the Brinley pieces between the lower clevis and lift arm above?

 

[kmcconaughey]

Bill J., the Cub Cadet Tillers connect up to the 3 point without the use of a Brinly sleeve hitch adapter. Other Cub Cadet implements that connect direct without use of a Brinly sleeve hitch adapter include the #40 Box Blade, the Landscape Rake/Grader Blade Combo, the Sand Trap Rake. There are probably some others but those are all that come to mind at the moment. The Brinly sleeve hitch adapter is required to connect up implements that use a "sleeve hitch" such as a plow, disc harrow, grader blade, cultivator etc. Make sense?

 

[jbaker]

William very nice cubs and charger

 

[vthomley]

Bill, a tiller hooks directly up to the parts in Frank's pic.

For your 126 , see the extra piece on the left side in the attached pic. You need this for your 126 when you switch a lift from your 122 to it, same piece is needed for a 106, 107, 127, and 147.

 

[bjamison]

William B - very nice CC's. What I notice that is super nice is your WIDE carport and 2 door garage in front of it! Very nice set-up!

Harry B, Kraig and Vincent T - thanks for the info on the extra bracket I need to make the 122's 3 point hitch fit on the 126 (and the info about implements that fit directly to the lower hitch). With garden tractor sequestration being fully enforced at the house by my Wife/Boss - looks like the 3 point hitch is going to set on the shelf for now. The 126 will get a tune-up, new-ish seat and a #26 carb replacement for the Walboro on it now, and a tube in one of the front tires. All of these parts made it into the basement workshop/compound prior to Momma cutting off funding for tractors. It will get the 48 inch deck greased, blades sharpened, brakes adjusted and off for the summer for camp mowing duty.

I'll have to plow with the modern early version all steel/cast iron McCormick era 1650 tractor or an one of my O/T red tractors or with a red O/T rear tine tiller.

 

[fcurrier]

Dear Harry: No spud planting quite yet. I just went out and measured 24" of snow in the back field. On the plus side I was able to walk on the crust and go back to the Quonset 1/4 mile up the hill and pay a quick visit to the 3 149's, the 169, and the 125 that I haven't seen since last December.

 

[wbest]

Thanks for all the kind words Guys. The carport is great for shade as I had to take out all my trees a couple of years ago.