482 Cub - Good Bad Ugly

[mpatterson]

Just wondering what if any issues there were with the 482's? They had a gear transmission in them, right? Still the same frame size as the 782's, nothing changed on them that way? Thrower from a 782 (2B) would fit correctly? Son is looking at one for winter duties possibly - I guess this one is repowered with a Honda?? Not sure if they have the clutch done correctly to drive a thrower or deck? Anyone know if re-powered Honda's could/should be run with the original side panels of the 82 series on the tractors? Thinking air flow/over heating issues??

Any input would be appreciated.

 

[1811Cub]

482 was built upon the same basic 82 series frame and body panels. HOWEVER, they originally used the much inferior(read CHEAP) 4 speed Peerless belt driven manual transaxle, and a BS 11HP horizontal shaft engine. If a real Honda engine was used, that would be an upgrade. The Cub attachments made for any 82 series will fit the tractor, but the rear is suited for mower duty only IMHO.

 

[mpatterson]

So running a 42b thrower might be too much for it in the end?

 

[1811Cub]

Running a blower is easier on the diff as compared to a plow. It should be able to handle the duty, but they most certainly can't compare to the strength of a traditional IH/CCC transaxle.

 

[mgonitzke]

Running a thrower on that (or any gear drive) compared to a 782 will be a downgrade. Gear drives are not optimal snowthrower tractors. You will always be going the wrong speed.

 

[tlavalette]

The 2300 Peerless transaxle is actually a pretty stout unit. I've used them pretty much my whole life. The biggest problem having them in a cub (compared to John Deere or Massey) is no variator. However they do have a creeper gear (think snow thrower/blower or tiller).

 

[1811Cub]

If the Peerless 2300 was used in the early 90's Craftsman Garden Tractor with the Kohler Magnum 18.5 HP vertical shaft twin cylinder engine, I was able to blow up a couple of them back in the day plowing snow with wheel weights/chains. That tractor also had the high/low feature. While the engine was always top notch and powerful, the rest of the tractor was immensely cheaply constructed as compared to the Cubs I currently own..

 

[PACub100]

Running a thrower on that (or any gear drive) compared to a 782 will be a downgrade. Gear drives are not optimal snowthrower tractors. You will always be going the wrong speed.

True that!!!... This is where hydros take the win

 

[mpatterson]

Son passed on it..... from what you guys had mentioned and didn't get a great vibe talking to guy. His answers to questions weren't the greatest, sounded like a lot of hesitation on his part. Sure there will be others, with much more suited transmissions and engine hp, come available for winter duties.

Appreciate all the input though

 

[PACub100]

If you can find a quietline and a decent QA42a thrower, that'd be a good winter tractor. I'd say a 451 would do even better but they are heavier and the plastic chute is cheap.

I'm VERY impressed with my 1450 with the thrower. I did get a speed up pulley but it moved snow just fine before...

 

[mpatterson]

Yeah, I have a 42 already, one that was on my 782. I don't want to give him my 782 as that is what I haul fire wood with all winter (#4 trailer) back and forth to house for wood shed at back of property. The 982 with blower and the trailer on - its a bit of a train to get around house and pine trees. I like to have the 42 thrower here as a back up, but I do have my walk behind too already. So figured if I could find a decent tractor fairly cheap, I would "loan - never to be returned I'm sure" to him to get him through the winter. He's been through I think 3 walk behind blowers over the past 5 years, just cheap used ones that were on their last legs when he bought them. Shame he doesn't get paid well for scrap steel!

Yes, a QL would be decent for him I think as well. I wouldn't want to get him something that would need much work on it as I'm sure he wouldn't find the time to fit in fixing it. I'd end up being the one who would have to fix it. And his garage doesn't have heat or lights, so I wouldn't be rushing over to fix stuff there!