Replaced Starter Now Broken S/G bolts

[KAYAKER2]

After grinding up leaves for 2 hours, I found the two bolts snapped that hold the Bracket to the Engine boss. what could have happened there? I used original bolts with lock washers I thought. I know I will need to easy out both of them. if they are grade 8 its going to suck.
KAYAKER2

 

[dschwandt]

I doubt that they were grade 8, IF they were originals.
Weld a nut to them 1st off, and they should back right out

 

[mgonitzke]

Those would have been Grade 5 unless someone changed them.

They were likely over-torqued at some point.

 

[KAYAKER2]

I got them out easy with left hand drill bit. no easy out needed.

Replaced with Grade 5 found the head of the bolt that was in there, It was a soft 1 or 2 grade with no markings. Take a look at the two starter brackets. I am using the cast one. Was the welded one home made? I swap out the other starter mounting bolts with Grade 5. Those were also Grade 1 or 2. Somebody did replace all 5 bolts at one time. I noticed when I pressed the clutch, the console moved and heard noise from the clutch. I was missing 3 of the 4 bolts attaching the console to he frame. used Grade 5 for those also.
My Wife said I am mowing to much.
Thanks Guys
KAYAKER2

 

[dschwandt]

Use the cast iron piece, it's the OEM

 

[lpalma]

The bottom one is also, early Original bracket.

 

[mgonitzke]

The welded bracket is from an early Original. Everything else used the cast iron ones.

 

[KAYAKER2]

When I switched out the pulley for a PTO I switched the starter mount on this black k181. to run on my 71. previous owner must have set it up for an original.

I remember how far I had to reach to engage the PTO on the original, I had to engage the mower drive before mounting tractor with my red ball jets on.

 

[Jay Fetters]

When I switched out the pulley for a PTO I switched the starter mount on this black k181. to run on my 71. previous owner must have set it up for an original.

I remember how far I had to reach to engage the PTO on the original, I had to engage the mower drive before mounting tractor with my red ball jets on.

What are "red ball jets?"

 

[gary noblit]

Jay, us old folks called "em "sneakers also..or tennies.. short for tennis shoes....this was of course before reebock or nike

 

[Jay Fetters]

Jay, us old folks called "em "sneakers also..or tennies.. short for tennis shoes....this was of course before reebock or nike

Gotcha, I gave them a Google, and you can still buy them! They look like the old school converse shoes sorta.

 

[-CӞ]

i figured it was like “on the hop” or “afterburners!”

 

[KAYAKER2]

Jay, They were a poor kids Converse.

 

[Jay Fetters]

Jay, They were a poor kids Converse.

I love the old advertising!

 

[gary noblit]

Jay,the whole point back then was not about protecting your feet it was to keep one from wearing street shoes on the precious wooden gym floor..of course no one admitted that...

 

[dsarow]

When I bought my 125 years ago I also noticed the PO used the wrong fasteners in a few situations.Original fasteners have an IH marking,or make sure you use grade 5,they have 3 slash marks on the head.And I use a thread restorer kit,if the fastener doesn't go together easily,restore it.I don't see the need to use an impact,I'd rather hand tighten with a ratchet to the proper torque than removing broken and stretched fasteners