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[Todd]

Can anyone give a (relatively) definitive identification of this model from a single picture?

I have absolutely ZERO other information on it without going out to see it at the seller.

Any input is appreciated as to ID or known issues with the model.

Regards, Todd.

 

[digger]

Can anyone give a (relatively) definitive identification of this model from a single picture?View attachment 149266

I have absolutely ZERO other information on it without going out to see it at the seller.

Any input is appreciated as to ID or known issues with the model.

Regards, Todd.

It could be a 127 or 147 depending on what size engine it has in it.

 

[Todd]

It could be a 127 or 147 depending on what size engine it has in it.

Thanks for the start.
Can you think of any particulars for this model that I should look at when I go to see it?

 

[snicklas]

I see the notches in the frame for larger flywheel housing on a 14 HP… so the tractor should be a 147. I see the electric lift stuff is gone and it does not have a manual lift handle….. so best guess is it’s a 147 since I think the only 1x6/7 that had the frame “notch” was the 147….

 

[spndncash]

as mentioned the lift arm/motor/cylinder is gone, seat springs are on backwards, I think it has the wrong rear wheels - web looks odd to me and I think they are too wide for this model, rear tires are wrong size, tunnel cover looks loose does not touch the fender- maybe you can check the drive shaft integrity or maybe the body is not attached or purposely shifted back to clear the oversized tires , the dash pod/fiberglass looks in poor shape, I dont think that is the original grill -looks like expanded metal, the center cap is missing from the steering wheel-since its been sitting outside you may have to cut the steering wheel off to get it off, the motor, hydro and axle are a big unknown. if it has been sitting without a muffler or a carb/air cleaner - i would assume the engine is trash. who knows what lives in the engine if it was left open. In Ohio I would give 50-100 dollars for this.

 

[Todd]

I don't know whether it shows to others as it does to me but my original OP photo is heavily pixillated so I will re=post a picture here.

 

[Todd]

I see the notches in the frame for larger flywheel housing on a 14 HP… so the tractor should be a 147. I see the electric lift stuff is gone and it does not have a manual lift handle….. so best guess is it’s a 147 since I think the only 1x6/7 that had the frame “notch” was the 147….

Thank you for the response. What would I be looking at in terms of the electric-lift bits? Are they available and at all reasonable if so?

 

[Todd]

as mentioned the lift arm/motor/cylinder is gone, seat springs are on backwards, I think it has the wrong rear wheels - web looks odd to me and I think they are too wide for this model, rear tires are wrong size, tunnel cover looks loose does not touch the fender- maybe you can check the drive shaft integrity or maybe the body is not attached or purposely shifted back to clear the oversized tires , the dash pod/fiberglass looks in poor shape, I dont think that is the original grill -looks like expanded metal, the center cap is missing from the steering wheel-since its been sitting outside you may have to cut the steering wheel off to get it off, the motor, hydro and axle are a big unknown. if it has been sitting without a muffler or a carb/air cleaner - i would assume the engine is trash. who knows what lives in the engine if it was left open. In Ohio I would give 50-100 dollars for this.

That is an excellent check-list.
I will hand write that out for when I go to see it. Generally, it is not *cool* enough to me to take too seriously as a project if it turns out to be a rabbit-hole of time and money but - If I can get it running and a lift system for $500 (excluding tire costs) or so I may pounce.

 

[gary noblit]

Isn't the opening in front of the seat where a gearshift handle once was??

 

[Todd]

Isn't the opening in front of the seat where a gearshift handle once was??

If so... that's disconcerting. Thanks for noting. To the checklist it goes.

 

[ffgosda]

There should be no shift lever in front of the seat. There is a hydro lever up near the steering wheel on the dash. There was a cover plate originally over the hole near the seat.

 

[mgonitzke]

Isn't the opening in front of the seat where a gearshift handle once was??

The same fender pan was used on both hydro and gear drive models. This is a hydro, and the cover plate that goes over the hole is missing.

 

[RAllison]

The same fender pan was used on both hydro and gear drive models. This is a hydro, and the cover plate that goes over the hole is missing.

Yes,my 147 has a cover plate

 

[1811Cub]

The rear fender pans look very similar from this model right up to the 1989 model year tractors. Surely there are enough differences between them to make them not directly interchange, such as frame size, battery location, tailight design, etc.

 

[Todd]

There should be no shift lever in front of the seat. There is a hydro lever up near the steering wheel on the dash. There was a cover plate originally over the hole near the seat.

More great insight to add to my checklist. Thanks to you and the next 3 fellas amplifying your response.

 

[gary noblit]

The same fender pan was used on both hydro and gear drive models. This is a hydro, and the cover plate that goes over the hole is missing.

thanks Matt, I was not aware of a cover plate

 

[spndncash]

That is an excellent check-list.
I will hand write that out for when I go to see it. Generally, it is not *cool* enough to me to take too seriously as a project if it turns out to be a rabbit-hole of time and money but - If I can get it running and a lift system for $500 (excluding tire costs) or so I may pounce.

I just noticed the screen is missing from the flywheel. the engine shrouds are a wonderful home for mice and other critters. maybe take a pan and wrench to open the drain on the hydro/transaxle. it is likely water was sitting in there for some time. water/sludge will be at the bottom with oil floating on top, but since you're in Arizona it could be just fine. amazon sells borescopes for dirt cheap -you might want to invest in one - for what most people do you can get a decent one for $20-40 dollars. They make many jobs much easier or not even required since you could inspect some internals

 

[Todd]

I just noticed the screen is missing from the flywheel. the engine shrouds are a wonderful home for mice and other critters. maybe take a pan and wrench to open the drain on the hydro/transaxle. it is likely water was sitting in there for some time. water/sludge will be at the bottom with oil floating on top, but since you're in Arizona it could be just fine. amazon sells borescopes for dirt cheap -you might want to invest in one - for what most people do you can get a decent one for $20-40 dollars. They make many jobs much easier or not even required since you could inspect some internals

I have several versions of scopes for guns and engines but hadn't thought to bring one along to look at it. That too will go on my list. The other items on you post are valuable to me as well, thank you.

 

[spndncash]

in that case use it to look in the cylinder if the engine is free -spark plug wrench and you're in!