Archive through September 29, 2009

[kide]

Tim:
Read the thread - this isn't about opinions nor personal experiences....
BTW - 70 hours?? Better get another shop, if you can't do it yourself....there was something wrong with the assembly if new Kohler parts were used, shimmed and timed properly and the shafts were within spec. New, properly maintained engines didn't spit their balance gears at 70 hours.
Oh, and why are you SHOUTING ?

 

[dross]

Kendell I've got 2 1250's that don't have them built in 75 and 76 respectively.

 

[tteague]

LOL sorry kendell... I wasnt shouting. balance gear studs were also replaced...

 

[kmcconaughey]

Kendell, I thought it was all caps that was shouting, not bold text?

 

[kide]

Dave:
But they were still building them <u>with</u> in '95...maybe IHC was taking them out (kidding)...and the original engine in my 129 (middle of '74) had 'em. .....Not to doubt anyone's personal experiences , all I wanted to see was the TSB (and now, I guess, did Kohler quit building K motors with balance gears after they started using them and then updated them, and if so, when..) Dave - you're the original owner and they'd never been torn down?

 

[kide]

Kraig:
You're right,of course. A whole sentence in caps is shouting. A word in caps is stressing the meaning of that word. I guess a whole sentence in bold is a "style"...Sorry, Tim

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Gotta go buy a Kohler 235116....back in a while

 

[dross]

Kendell, I pulled the pan off one this summer, it didn't have the pins balance gears would have went on. One long dipstick tube and stick, forward starboard. That one had a std. bore. The earlier one has the same dipstick setup

 

[bnolte]

Mark G.
Restoration techniques depend on your objective, skills, access to equipment, and wallet. If you want a trailer-queen show tractor, go all out and completely dismantle it, have the frame, wheels, front nose, and the rest of the metal sandblasted, then painted. Such a restoration is probably past my skills and patience. I try to shoot for something that looks good from 10 feet away, and feels solid when you drive it.

If a PO brush painted the tractor, or it is rusting under the paint, the only real practical way of preparing the surface to do a nice paint job is to strip it to bare metal, either with a sandblaster or chemical strippers. After stripping it, and before doing the repaint is a good time to weld or braze any cracks and hammer out any dents. Be careful about using an industrial strength sandblaster on lighter gauge parts like the hood and fenders, or on fiberglass parts.

As far as doing additional surface prep, I would borrow or buy a book on auto body repair, and follow their advice but the basic process after repairing and straightening the metal is to fill and sand (repeat as necessary), prime and sand, (repeat as necessary), and finally apply the finish coat.

 

[klejeune]

I thought if a K series motor had the long dipstick on the S/G side of the block then it was minus balance gears from the factory. Otherwise the dipstick would hit the gears. Hence why some motors have a fill tube and short stick/plug on the S/G side and actual dipstick on cam cover those would have balance gears from the factory.

Where's Jerry Bliler????
He bought a replacement K321A some time back to replace the blown motor in his 149. He removed the factory installed balance gears prior to installation in his 149. Maybe he has some sort of documentation recommending removing the balance gears.

The guy I spoke with on the phone yesterday said he'd never heard of any K series without balance gears factory installed. His thought was maybe IH ordered a specific SPEC without balance gears for the QL series after having so many problems over time with the early wide frame motors. Then after production ended and replacement motors were needed Kohler didn't build that exact SPEC anymore but when installing in a IH Cub Cadet, Cub Cadet recommended removing the gears prior to installation.

So, maybe we shouldn't be looking for a Kohler service bulletin, we should be looking for a Cub Cadet service bulletin... there, how about some more sugar for the Kool-aid pitcher?

 

[kide]

An IHC TSB?? Well, that should be close at hand, eh??