Archive through September 10, 2014

[bwittman]

Lately, there has been some conversation about rear mechanical transmission driven PTO.

I am curious to know if that PTO option was available from IH on the wide-frame gear drives, such as the 108 and 128; and the 1000 and 1200, or was this option one that was limited to the narrow frame tractors?

In advance, thank you.

 

[snicklas]

Brian,

According to the owners manual for the Wideframe and Quietline tractors, it was available.

On Page 17 it shows the PTO on a Wideframe with the 86, 108 and 128 listed specifically.

On Page 17 it shows the PTO on a Quietline with the 800, 1000 and 1200 listed specifically.

However, as stated earlier, the only thing I have seen made specifically for the Rear PTO on a Cub Cadet is the Reverser/RPM Corrector and a Right Angle Flat Belt drive pulley, that used the large flat canvas or leather drive belt. The kind of belt that would run an old feed mill, or as I have seen at the fair with a "hit-and-miss" single cylinder engine, running an ice cream mixer or mini bale hay baler.

 

[pfunk]

I have a Hawk Bilt Groundsaw that requires the rear transmission. While digging the forward motion of the tractor is powered by a hydraulic motor connected to the rear PTO that drives the transmission. It is the only attachment that I know of that requires the rear PTO, but it does require it.

There's pictures and more about it here

 

[jstertz]

Paul F--thanks so much for sharing the info on your ground saw setup! That is a really cool use for the rear PTO on these old cubs. I'm sure that item is ultra rare but it is neat to know that it is out there. Now that I have a tractor with one on it, I definitely want to find at least a couple of uses for it...

 

[jstertz]

The PTO--not the ground saw! I could only wish for one of those!!!

 

[mhomrighausen]

Joshua S. For your rear pto... Have Paul Funk build you a pull type mower like his... Click Here. That would be neat for Clarence, too.

 

[jbaker]

Marlin

thanks for finding that

 

[elamott]

Forgive me for this question because I know it has been discussed before, but I cannot find it.
I have a 129 and the question is.
Does everyone change the hydro fluid and certain intervals. I have just changed the cork gasket and the filter and was thinking about the remainder of the fluid.
Thanks for any comments
Earl LaMott

 

[balbrecht]

Earl,
Different people do different things and honestly it depends a little on the history of the machine and how you use it. I changed the hytran in my dads 127 this summer for the second time since he bought it new in 1970. It was the first time the rear end cover had ever been off the machine, and since it had always been stored inside and saw little winter use, the inside of the tranny still was almost spotless. For tractors I bring home that I don't know the history of, the rear end cover comes off right away and the fluid gets changed. I would say if you've gone to the trouble of doing the filter and the gasket, go ahead and do the fluid and you'll be good for a long time.

 

[sblunier]

Paul,

Good call on the PTO creeper drive for the trencher.

Earl,

If you have it opened up you really should go ahead and do a fluid change. As Brian stated, once you know the history, you can change accordingly, but with any chance of debris entering the system due to repair work, I would always advise a full change.

 

[prtombaugh]

Regarding implements/attachments using the Cub Cadet rear PTO. A couple years back I happened upon an estate sale where there was a lightly used CC 100 and a shed full of attachments. One of the attachments was an owner-built, sleeve hitch mounted, rear PTO driven lawn sprayer with a four foot boom and a hand spray wand. It was very well made and I presumed it worked fine. I only have one picture of it, but it should give an idea what it looked like. All the receipts for all the parts used to make it were included. I never tried using it since I live in a place where I don’t do the lawn care.

 

[jstertz]

Guys--This is great!

These are the kinds of things that I was looking for this application. I figured that even if the factory didn't develop many uses for that PTO, people with a good imagination and fabrication skills could make almost anything that they set their mind to. I certainly would take into account any fabricated attachment that would have a large reciprocating mass as per Steve B's post. There is something to be said for stopping the forward progress of a machine and an implement with the same push of the clutch.

Marlin--I love the pics of that PTO driven sickle mower. That is super cool! The problem is that I now want one!!!

Paul T--Neat sprayer setup, I certainly wouldn't mind having that at all!!! My two acre lawn would be benefited by that setup.

Earl L--I'm in agreement with these guys concerning the HyTran. I always change it right away in a machine that is new to me without any verified previous information of a recent change. Put in that liquid gold and you'll be good for a long while!

 

[mhomrighausen]

Jeff B and Joshua S. Go the PHOTOS section of Paul's site and check out his really cool drag saw.

I'd love to have a rear pto shredder using a Cat O setup to run on Clarence's pto. Using a couple of different sized pulleys to obtain a nice shredder speed and some other mods then I could grind corn and oats for the birds, squirrels and bunnies in the winter time.

 

[dtanner]

I saw a great PTO driven saw yesterday . on a farmall .

 

[dtanner]

I thought this was some nice . I should have one .

 

[jbaker]

Don your vacation was too long, you forgot where to post stuff..

 

[dfrisk]

STEVE, PAUL - I think it was Guy Fay who wrote an article for RPM about IH's Hydro-Creeper drive must be close to 8-10 yrs. ago. Think it was available on the A/B/C models also using the ground saw or trencher,. Might have been available on the CUB FARMALL too. With his access to the archives he's wrote some great articles!

 

[jstertz]

Marlin--more cool stuff! I have been formulating exactly the same thing in my mind. I started to browse around for a super heavy duty "small" chipper/shredder that is a decent price and in halfway decent shape. Then, just like you said, I'd have to figure out the hookup, gearing for speed, and certainly the proper direction. If you do it before me, I want to see a full write up in how you do it!

Jeff B---

Don T, that is a cool setup on that cub. My family has used a front mounted buzz saw on a Case VAC tractor for about 40 years for cutting wood. They really work well for efficiently cutting up limbs... Good stuff!

 

[pfunk]

Marlin, to make a long story short, a couple months ago I had to hurriedly switch my Cub Cadet website over to different software or chance losing a lot of information. Until you posted I hadn't noticed how small those pictures were. I've updated them this morning and I think you'll be able to find a lot more detail. Also, I didn't realize until I enlarged the pictures, that I don't have the pitman arm installed in the pictures. I'll need to correct that.

And, thanks for the kind words. I enjoy working on Cub Cadet attachments.

 

[mpatterson]

Just wondering what you guys have for suitcase weights? What are their sizes, (HxWxT) and what do they weigh? Have a company that will make me ones for $1.25/pound. A weight roughly 8"x10"x2" will weigh in about 42lbs. That includes the price of making the casting. Was going to do one up out of wood, then they could use it as a pattern? Thinking of making a wrack to put on the tail of the 782 for blowing snow to help keep it planted on the ground?? Have the back tires load and two sets of weights per wheel and then my fat ass, but want to be sure. That 2 stage blower I bought for on it is pretty heavy!??