Archive through September 05, 2014

[dfrisk]

JOHN - You can if you MODIFY the mounting bracket.

In essence, I modified it similar to what IH did on the QA-36/42B's I think they were, could be used on both NF & WF. Only thing was, I couldn't use the blower on a WF without modifying it again.

 

[jsosbe]

Anyone know what diameter the idler pulley on a bb36 snow blower is? Restoring mine but its missing the pulley. Thanks.

 

[tbdavis]

Mike/Nic/Charlie - thanks for the valve info - I'm on it.

 

[sblunier]

Joshua,

I am sure 99% of the rear PTO's were purchased for use on elevators/augers. They were an option that cost $$$, so it wouldn't have been ordered if the owner didn't have a use for it. I'm thinking small 1 horse farms that needed aux. power to run the bale elevator while the big tractor was pulling the rack, running the 4" auger feeding the 400 bu/hour grain dryer, etc.

It was very definitely a case of "we already have this available, let's make a few cheap mods and add it to the Cub Cadet". All parts are the same as the F-Cub EXCEPT for the top shaft and ONLY Cub Cadets with the PTO have special top shafts (splined end)....every gear drive did not get the special top shaft, so if you see a PTO unit laying out on a table at a swap meet make sure it has a top shaft or be looking the the rear end it came out of.

Now, did R&D really drop the ball? No.....because, what good is a rear PTO that is not live on the back of a Cub Cadet????? Unless it is used for stationary work (bale elevator), the need to use the clutch to change directions makes tillers, mowers, etc. difficult to use and extremely hard on the drive train, let alone dangerous without an over-running clutch.

Friend has a Ferguson TO-20 with a clutched ("dead") PTO and hyd. pump. Never have used the PTO, but it sure sucks to have to shift into "N" and let out the clutch to raise or lower the plow or wagon hoist.....PITA. That LOOOOOONG tiller belt to the "live" PTO clutch on the front of the engine was a great idea compared to running it off the rear PTO.

BTW, Other makes of GT's offered PTO options for running stationary equipment (JD had a GIANT v-belt pulley for the 110/112), so there must have been some perceived need along the way, silly as it seems now.....

 

[sshaff]

Wondering if others have had mower deck spindles become loose and disassemble while mowing? This has happened to me multiple times on three different cast end decks over the last few years...seems like it happens at least once a year, sometimes twice. Fortunately I haven't lost any parts, but what a PITA...

 

[tbdavis]

Curious if anyone has or has seen the double pulley made for running a hydro lift on an Original? Whenever I mention it to someone they generally chuckle and say good luck finding one. That said, is it possible to have one machined and does anyone even have the dimensions to go by? I've heard you can mate a second pulley to the single somehow but don't have specifics. It's also my understanding that the pulley on the O hydro lift is smaller but the larger one can be made to work. Anyone have this setup or something similar? Any thoughts/suggestions appreciated.

 

[joligschlaeger]

Steve S.
How tight are you tightening the pulley nuts on top?

If I recall correctly there should be a spacer between the bearing inner races, tighten to correct specs, against the spacer and if not too much wear of the bearings everything should be right, also check if bore in pulley is wallowed out. HTH

 

[dfrisk]

STEVE, JOSH - Dad had a 48 foot JD bale elevator we used any time we made any hay or straw, and the neighbors we traded help with used it too. It was something the '63 CC or 70 could have run easily, but most times when we baled at home, Dad hauled in and unloaded and used the '51 M to haul in AND run the elevator, took half a minute to unhook the load of hay/straw and back up to the elevator, hook up the PTO and start unloading. No real reason to use a tiny tractor, although, something small like a CC would have been nice in a couple places where the larger tractors were in the way.

There were several things I REALLY preferred the transmission driven PTO of a straight H or M or Super H or Super M over a live PTO. And there were several jobs it made no difference one way or the other. Running something with a LOT of inertia was something best done with a live PTO... but I've used trans. driven PTO's a LOT for both bush-hogging & baling where the inertia of the baler's flywheel or bush-hog's blades would push you right through a brick wall! Back in the 1960's, over-running clutches were not available like they are today, we never had one so I've never used one. The stuff we did with PTO implements were work that ran a long duration, stops & starts were infrequent. A rear PTO on a GD CC running a mower or tiller would be for short durations and THAT would be inconvenient. Plus I doubt anybody makes an over-running clutch that fits the odd sized splines on the CC PTO.

 

[jlspicer]

When Dad bought his 124 back in the day, I don't think he bought it just for the rear PTO. It happened to have it, and he figured out later, he could run the elevator off it. Kinda lucked into it. Makes one wonder if the CC engineers were looking at designing implements to run off the PTO. Maybe came down to cost versus timing. Other manufacturers already were making implements, so why spend money to make their own. Then came the PTO turning the wrong direction. Put on a reverser. But we all know how cost effective that is/was years ago and today. So, maybe they scrapped the implement idea. Dunno.....

Would be cool to be a fly on the wall back in the day to hear what they were thinking.

Steve S.,
Are ya gonna make it to Geneseo this coming weekend? Hope to be down there Saturday to look around with the kids.

 

[pfunk]

Terry, I have a picture of what that double pulley for the O looks like about half way down here. I have it mounted on an Original at the present time, but I could try to get you some measurements if you need them. And, there have been people that made replacements. The article that I've referenced discusses other differences in mounting a hydraulic pump on an O. Hope this helps.