Archive through November 05, 2010

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Charlie "Digger" Proctor

I did not answer Dave Charette post , because my knowledge of Cub cadet is limited. I think you could pack one and use vacume hose for the other and I could not remember what was right for sure.Thanks for That , I was going to post a shoe lace lol. Thanks Guys

 

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Thomas E. Mcaughlin

Just ask, this site will not steer you wrong on your Cub. Hope to hear more from you and what your up to with your tractor.

 

[jharvey]

Harry
These are right out of the bag! 13 twisted links.

 

[tmarkle]

Thomas M,
When you get it back together be sure to change the oil after the first 5 hours of run time. That is when most of the wear occurs and changing the oil will get all that metal out of there. I usually change them again at 15 hrs then every 25.

 

[tweinke]

Charlie, Did you swipe my cord polisher? I'm sure that was in my cub house last night because I tripped over it. So now we can assume there are at least two. I would also like to know more about them. Was told were mounted under hood on pickups but don't know.

 

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Todd W.

 

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Todd Markle (Farmallgray)

Great advice I think. get um hot and drain them. I like to us a Cub some and make them hot and then Change there oil. I think you keep the best for later.I was at a pro shop today and saw them using a sucker to change oil. They will never have a Cub of mine to service.

 

[dcharette]

Charlie,
I'll give the teflon tape a try,thanks.

 

[hydroharry]

Donnie T and Jerry H - well thanks for the additional info. Donnie - still not sure how you can get by with 17 rows (except maybe the links on the side of the chain are slightly longer than most). Jerry you confirm what my memory recalled - you have 13 twisted links (Donnie has 12), and with 21 rows you probably really have an extra row you could remove, but then again it depends on how accurate the size of your tires are. I recall now the Goodyear 23 is more like 21 or 22 so that can make a difference. On the other hand, since Donnie is north of the border his tires are probably 23cmX10.5cmX12cm so his chains are an easy fit on the front tires. Obviously I'm going nuts on the chains, but I think generally 12 or 13 cross links with 10 rows of them spaced every 4th link, will probably fit the 23x10.5x12 tire. So how many cross/twisted link fit the 8.5 wide tire?

Hydro Harry
Old Cubs Never Die
(especially trying to make new connections to keep the chain links going)

 

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Harry Bursell

I posted that info for you so you could do the math and come up with a good fit for you 8.5 tires. What I use on my 149 works great with the tur tires and I do deflate them for a tight fit. All chains as Denis F has said will work if the Chain lays down the side of the tire so you don`t have a problem like Kraigs rear fenders. If they are loose they will not work .traction is what we want and there are a few ways to get it some better some not so good in the long run.

 

[hydroharry]

Donnie - hey I do appreciate your info and the pics as well. As for the math, my guess would be 2 less cross links for an 8.5 wide tire, which puts me right back where I thought 10 cross links, and 10 rows of cross links, generally, depending on the actual measured tire size, tire inflation, tread depth, etc.

Thanks again and ya got snow up there yet?

Hydro Harry
Old Cubs Never Die (but they occassionally break loose of their chains)

 

[lpalma]

All this talk of tire chains is very confusing,
Just put them on.No counting involved,(not enough fingers or toes).I let the air out of the tires and mount them that way,nice and tight.Good info on the chains guys...

 

[lhinds]

Most chains fit a range of sizes. I install mine with air let out of tire then air tire back up. I always cut off excess links so they are not in the way.

 

[dfrisk]

LUTHER, LEWIS - Yep, think I posted below the ONLY important factors on fitting tire chains is the section width and over all diameter of the tire the chain is designed to fit. Link count depends on lenght which can & will vary.

And kinda like underwear and coveralls, BIGGER is better than too small.

When installing, make sure the links are all layed out nice and straight with the wear on the cross chains all facing the same way, all up or all down, that the chains aren't stuck inside themselves or twisted. FLOP them over the tire and hook them up.

My Buddy has about five sets of used chains for use on his off-topic L&G tractors. Think he said his average price was $5/PAIR at farm auctions. If you have a welder it's easy to make chains to fit most anything if you have the raw materials.

 

[ljones]

Will carlisle 23x8.50x12 tires clear the fenders on my 122 ?

How wide was the ih back blade for the cub cadets?

Found this 4ft blade at a yard sale for $5.00, looks like it was crudely modifyed to fit a farmall a, I think whith a little modifying I can make it fit my 122.

 

[dfrisk]

LUCAS - I'm thinking that blade was made to fit a CUB FARMALL, pretty sure they were the only FARMALL to have a single point Fast-Hitch. Everything else from the Super C (first IH w/F-H) to the last IH's w/F-H used two points, but there were two different sizes of points, in round numbers, anything lower than 30 gross Hp got small points and anything larger got BIG points. They did make spacers to use small point attachments on big tractors, but if you used a small point attachment like a blade on a 100+ HP 1456 you had to be REAL careful not to destroy the blade.

For a Five Dollar bill I hope that blade followed you home. Take a little work to make it fit a 122 but it's do-able.

The CC IH back blade was 40 inches if I remember right.

And the 23-8.5 Carlisle tires should fit under your 122's fenders as long as something really weird isn't happening.

 

[ksanders]

The A, Super A, 100, 130, and 140 series also used a one point hitch. We have a 130 here with one and my uncle's 140 has one as well. Very user friendly tractors with the 5' disc and 2-12 plow on the 1-point hitch.

 

[dfrisk]

KEVIN - Thanks for correcting me on the use of the one-point F-H. By the early 1950's around home the FARMALL M was King, H's had already been relegated to chore tractors and IH couldn't make a big enough row crop tractor. By 1960 the 560 Farmall out-sold the 460 about two or three to one of the 460's. The introduction of the 706/806 I would say favored the 706 slghtly, but by the time the 56 & 66 series were being built the biggest models were popular again. Odd but only one BTO got a 1206 when they released.

The little FARMALL's were just not around, the A/B/C, the Super's & number series. My school district used a 140 to mow grass all summer with a 60 inch belly mounted mower. And a neighbor or two had a C/Super C. A's & B's just weren't big enough.

The single point FH must have been a Louisville THING and the two-point a FARMALL thing. Dad's '57 or '58 450 gas had the Fast-Hitch and for lots of things it was great. The tractor came with the matching 4-14 fully mounted plow, & 5 ft shredder/chopper. Dad later He bought a 6 ft F-H blade for it. Setting the rear wheels out for cultivating was a snap on the 450 with the lower down force the F-H provided that was never possible with any 3-point regardless of color.

SOMEONE should twist Aaron's arm a little to make a scale replica 2-point Fast Hitch for Cub Cadets.... (hint....hint)

 

[ljones]

Denis,
thanks for the info, and yes it did follow me home.

A two point fast hitch for a cc would be sweet, I would buy one

 

[jbliler]

23 Degrees here in the ozarks this morning. All this talk of tire chains has me hoping for snow again! Best luck for me is to let the air out and then install,,, then no bungee cords and no loose links. For the record it will hold a split sidewall together untill spring too!