Archive through March 01, 2013

[hydroharry]

Mike F - ok, your message wasn't clear. Did you skip the copper ones on the Ford rearend, or on the Kohler backing plate?

 

[mfrade]

I skipped the copper ones on the rearend. I imagine they are serving the same purpose. Sorry if it wasn't clear..

 

[fcurrier]

The next baby step towards re-assembling the K341 was to install the balanced and reground crankshaft from Kirk Engines.

Did that last night and thought it was AOK. This morning realized the rear bearing wasn't turning freely, so apart she comes (being careful to keep the crank/cam timing marks aligned). Now I feel it's good to go.

New Bedford Mike: I'm using the IH Service Manual, not the Kohler, and deciding it's lacking. Maybe the copper washers they speak of are "crush washers"?

Anyway, I used the lock washers that came in here with the engine/bearing plate.

 

[hydroharry]

Frank - that sure'nuf is looking nice. I do think the copper washers are a sorta crush type. What was the deal with the bearing tho? They are usually either good or bad.

 

[fcurrier]

Harry: The bearing is good (I don't think they can be killed). I'd cleaned it all up and left it to dry (for a couple months) without oiling it. My bad. So I go down this morning and notice it wasn't turning like the front bearing does. (Caught a blip of Michael Landon (Little Joe) on a Rifelman rerun in the process).
Anyway, I thought I had it all settled with .003 clearance endplay but when I took it back apart I decided to add another paper gasket to the rear bearing plate and now have .015 endplay. The tolerance (from the manual I'm using) is .003 to .020. So far, so good.

 

[hydroharry]

Frank - ya those bearings need to have a little oil on them. Hope you didn't spin them without any. I know Jim C never had to replace one, and with the size of them you wouldn't think it would be necessary. I have heard shops use a microscope and see pitting and claim they need replacing, but I really doubt it is. As for the clearance, sounds like you were just on the edge of being tight, and now you're fine as wine.

 

[kide]

Frank:
Guy that worked for me had a GS1100 Suzuki with ball bearing mains. Somebody told him it was OK to drain the oil in the fall and leave it dry till spring. When he filled it in the spring and started it, it had a "whistle" from the main bearings... he rode it for many years after that, but we could always hear "old whistler" pulling into work..

 

[dtanner]

Gerry Ide

Had a friend bring his trailer over to my shop . his plan was to check and re-grease the wheel bearings.I said wash them and add new grease while your at it.I saw him wash the first bearing and then reach for my air hose. He spun those bearings up as hard as 135 psi air gun would spin them. I said don`t do that because dry bearings will pit and ruin the races and they could fly apart. He said I did hundreds of bearings this way and never had a problem. I went about my business and the next bearing he spun up with air blew apart send balls all over the shop. You can imagine how 135 psi air would spin a wheel bearing. He had to buy all new bearings after I showed him that he had damaged the bearings that had cleaned and spun. I don`t wash bearing anymore with the bearing packer. Just watch the fresh grease push out the dirty grease and install.

 

[jbaker]

Frank I am waiting for summer to open my k341 for balance gear inspection, but snow wont stop here,, now they are calling for 4 to 8 inchs tomorrow.

Time for the 169 to go work

 

[digger]

I've just got to ask!

Just what is the purpose of this thread other than to post only about 169's, to take away from the main forum board?

If that's the case, I guess threads will have to be started for every other model, and we'll just do away with the main forum board and go all threads for the entire forum!

 

[fcurrier]

Jeff, if I can't post a pic of our 169 working within the next 6 months I'll have Charlie refund my membership dues and hang my head in shame.

OOPS! Woke the bear! Dammit, Charlie, I mentioned that well before opening this thread. The 169 is a special machine and I'm quite happy that one fell my way. Poof the thread or tell us not to use it anymore. (You asked)

 

[hydroharry]

Charlie - besides Frank, I for one was also a crazy nut thinking this thread was a good idea. We actually did find the very 1st 169 built, and we also found the correct tail light lenses. Discussions to pursue finding these got real boring to many on the main thread. Maybe you could just cut us a little break since this ones alreeady going, and say this is the last separate thread specific to a model.

 

[rbeem]

I'm with the boys. It's nice to have a place to go specific to this kind of special 169 model. Info gets buried in the main Forum so fast.

Besides, I hate cats, and they get their own area.

 

[dschwandt]

Geesh Rick!! DIG, DIG, DIG,

Dave S

 

[eblake]

ok.....ive decided the old girl needs a name.....any one have any objections to gertrude?

 

[jbaker]

Eliza,,,When are you going to show us a picture of her??

 

[fcurrier]

Eliza: She'll grow into it. Gertrude, Gertie, Gert . . . I have an Aunt Gertrude who's genuine Made in Germany and as tough as they come!

 

[fcurrier]

AN INSPIRATION:
The way Hydro Harry's 169 used to look:

 

[hydroharry]

Frank - glad to hear you're "inspired". If you weren't I'd be having you visit the wood shed instead of the garage.

 

[eblake]

well alrighty then.....gertrude it is....thanks frank! im gonna try n work on that this weekend....in between gettin hay n a new seat for my truck.....