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All this talk about fender mounted tool boxes & cup holders got me to thinking this...

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Might be a more acceptable solution even though it predates Cub Cadets by a few years!!
 
TOM F. - Have to agree, nice IH fleet, especially the '52 H IMO. I bet Kraig asks for you to e-mail him larger detailed pic's of the 125's soon. They're his favorite tractor of all CC's. I just like the double-zig-zag grills they have.

Since there's been discussion on one of my favorite topics, assembling Kohler engines, I probably fall into Gerry's catagory, get the shop as close to "clean room conditions as possible", and keep it clean. But you have to handle the parts eventually. Anything that rolls, slides, or moves against another part gets some form of assembly lube, either white Lubri-Plate grease, or Fel-Pro, Red Line, or Royal Purple assembly lube, I've used them all, the brand really doesn't matter IMO, and it's a situation where "More is better than None". Everything gets sprayed with Brake-Clean, then wiped down with clean paper shop towels, then oiled, lubed, greased, and assembled. Some things shouldn't be lubed, like the tapered fit of the flywheel on the crankshaft. Threaded fasteners going into dissimilar metals get a small dab of Anti-sieze, fasteners that need to be kept tight get a drop of LocTite, Red or Blue depending on size and how it comes apart. But head bolts, rod cap bolts, and the big nut on the flywheel go on dry and torqued to spec.

On a normal engine build I use at least a roll or box of blue paper shop towels, and a bottle of hand cleaner, and a full can of Brake-Kleen.

Anything that gets on the parts when assembling an engine that doesn't dissolve in motor oil will be in that engine during the break-in, then hopefully it gets drained out with the oil... but maybe it doesn't. I use the same cleanliness standards on oil changes as I do engine builds.

DON T. - Why do you need so much HP & torque to pull your 5'ver. I drove semi's all over the Midwest that weighed 70,000-75,000# 65 to 67 MPH years ago with only 320 HP & 850#/ft of torque and 6-spds including the creeper lo. Granted I only got 4 to 4-1/4 MPG... but the engine was a V-8 Cummins no less! Your little 5'ver weighs what? 20,000-22,000# tops? Heck, even my stock PSD towed 18,000# 65-70 MPH up hill and down seven yrs ago hauling the '51 M home. How fast do you want to pull your trailer anyhow. ;-) Most Ram's I see towing 5'vers cruise at 62 MPH, 100 KPH.
 
Gerry, Denny.. my point was don't handle the parts for just a picture. That's it.

The oils and acids in your skin will attack the metals. When assembling is also when applying lubricants to counteract the remains of your skin oils/acids.

The parts should only be handled when assembling, in a nitro motor it's easy 'cause the life span is so short, rings and bearings in a nitro motor are considered consumables.

The basic philosophy (for motor internals) should be handle these parts the minimum amount you have to, these are the keys to longevity is all I was trying to say, and now I'm done. LOL.
 
David S.

I cant help you much with your 682 trouble, but hang in there someone on here will chime in soon
 
Dennis Frisk

355 rear end ratio ! pulling anything you should have lower gears.

Got some cub seat time in with my 149 today. I forget how nice that tractor works. it is real easy to bounce the front tires off the ground lol. Getting ready to start winters wood ; got 4 cord to maul through. Last year for that job. Looking at a geothermal heat pump . to old to lift and work at the wood pile.
 
David S.,

Nice box! Is the wooden bottom original? I would have thought it would have been all metal.
 
david stevens
The list could be long as to what is your pump problem.

1. did you fill the filter with hytran before you installed it.
2.did you loosen a check valve to see it it is pumping.

3. charge pump pin could have broken !

4. are all the drive pins in place that you can see the stub shaft on back of the hydro pump is turning.
5. did you install a gauge in the pump to see if it is making any fluid move.
6 if towed it should still pump fluid from the charge pump but will be wasted because of damage to the pistons where they run on the washer in the
charge pump basket.

What did you check so far so you can find what happened.????

used pumps are easy to find and not to many $$ if you are sure your pump is toast.I know there is a repair kit with new pistons and washer that would fix your pump if it was towed for quite a ways . but used pumps are probably going to be cheaper to get
 
DON T. - Naaa. With 3.55's and loaded to 19K# gross, I could idle away from a stop without slipping the clutch IN 2ND gear at 850 RPM. And cruise at 67 MPH @ 2000 RPM in 5th. If I needed to get going in a hurry I might feed the clutch in at 900-1000 RPM in 2nd. My truck only runs 15 MPH at 2500 RPM in low, it's geared WAY lower than your A/T truck in low gear. If I could have gotten any other axle ratio beside 3.55's, it'd have been 3.23's or 3.08's. I've got PLENTY of low gears, but need more fast gears!
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For me, 4.10's would be a total waste, they're only needed if you're going to tow over 20,000# gross all the time. Remember, I've driven all manner of trucks from single axle dumps, tandems with 5+4 trannies, to 18-wheelers with 9, 10, & 13 spd Road-Rangers, and many of those trucks had way less HP than my stock PSD has. When I graduated from college, my "Dream Job" was being a buyer for a HUGE trucking co. where I could spec out the semi-tractors, engines, transmissions, axle ratios, tire sizes, etc. I LOVE that stuff!

The ZF-5 spd in my PSD is Hands Down the BEST SHIFTING manual trans I've ever had the pleasure of driving in ANY vehicle, including my old '88 Mustang GT w/ Borg-Warner T5 5-spd, and my Volve with manual 6 spd. Too bad FMC doesn't put a manual trans in ANY pickup worth owning, they put a manual 5-spd in a plain-jane fleet truck with a V6 engine, vinyl seats & floor mats, no radio or A/C. At least I think they still do, they did 5-6 yrs ago.

FWIW, If I had to buy a new truck, I would buy a RAM 3500, Reg. cab 4X4, 6.7L CTD, & manual 6-spd. RAM is the only co. that offers a manual trans anymore. I priced one on Kelly Blue Book a week or two ago, $40,000 US vs $50-$60K for a new F350 w/automatic. Plus the 850#/ft of torque would be nice, but I bet they don't offer that tune with the manual trans. NO way the frame, transmission, & axles could handle that much stress. That's as much torque as my 320 HP 903 V8 Cummins made. The axles, frame, transmission, etc were at least three times the size of the parts in the Ram 3500.

MIKE F. - As a counter-point to discussion, a small amount, say a finger-print of oxidation would help hold oil or lubrication for parts that have to wear in nicely with other parts. We used to "Parkerize" parts at FARMALL, had to send them out down the street a mile, similar to Bluing or Black Oxide coating common on fire arms & machine tool parts etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkerizing

A smooth finely machined surface doesn't hold much oil. Part of the secret to the long life of IH 300 & 400 series diesel engines was the magnetic oxide treatment to the cylinder sleeves, it held oil much better. Also why cross-hatch is important on cyl walls.

Speaking of nitro motors, I remember the time when Kenny Berntsen went to the line and did his burn-out in a round of eliminations in a major NHRA race, at least ten yrs ago. He pulled into the staging beams, and his crew chief shut the engine down. Seems the crew forgot to "Add OIL" after they did the between-round rebuild. $70,000 worth of parts Ruined in a minute! A guy doesn't know whether to laugh or cry at something like that!
 
Wondering if this three point lift pin can be used with my Brinly plow AND IH Model 1 tiller?

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Regarding the lift pin- I don't see a cotter pin hole drilled 90 degrees from the main hole so it's unlikely. Also the tiller pin has an elongated hole and the brinly pin is round.
 

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