Archive through February 14, 2008

[pbradley]

Shane I don't have a 1650 to compare against my 1450's but I was told last year when looking for a 1650 that the 1450 was the workhorse of the quitelines and that it ran smoother than the 1650 does and that you could not tell the difference as to the 1650 having any more power

 

[rdehli]

Shane ...having both a 1650 and a 1450 I will agree that the 14 is way smoother running that the 1650... I use the 1450 for mowing and blowing snow the 1650 is used for tilling gardens and dirt plowing at plow days. There is a power difference the k341 in the 1650 has more low end torque. Personally I love to till gardens with the 1650 plenty of power to sink the tiller in at least 6-8" . either one would be a good choice for a loader and ps or the tiller

 

[jthompson]

Shane,

I have a 1450 and a 1650. I have not run either one enough to know if there is a noticeable power difference or not. However, like you, I have a tiller and plan to build a loader for these tractors. Right now my plan is to put the loader on the 16 and the tiller on the 14.

 

[sblunier]

Kriag,

That's the shift fork out of my 100 in the middle photo.

Shane,

The 16hp will eat the 14hp's lunch on a hard pull....they are a real horse, BUT, I'd take the 14hp any day of the week for a "user" tractor, much smoother and still plenty of power.

I've plowed with 149's 169's 582's and 782's and the 16hp still has the most power.

 

[jthompson]

Steve,

Are you saying that the 1650 has more power than the vaunted 782? I thought the 782 was the KING of all garden tractors??????????????

Of course I kinda like that seeing as how I have a 1650.

 

[dtanner]

a 129 will move around nice with a full bucket of ground.it did get a few extras with the loader

 

[sblunier]

Jim,

My "butt dyno" says that a good solid K341 will out lug a KT-17 under a hard drawbar load...you can pull them Waaaaaaaayyyyyy down before they fall on their face......that is IF you can keep all of you fillings in your teeth!!!! A 782 and a 169/1650 are pretty equally matched power wise, but the twin is MUCH smoother and somewhat quieter for everyday jobs like mowing and plowing snow. IMHO, you need to jump up into the 20hp twins befoe you gain back enough low end torque to lug with a K-341.

782 king???? YOU BET!!!! I sold my 169 shortly after buying 782 #1 and do not regret letting it go....dentist bills are much lower and I don't have to replace the hood hinge every time I fill the fuel tank!!!!

 

[wcompton]

I'll agree with Steve and go out on a limb and say that the K341 will even out-lug the B48G Onan in the 982.

 

[dgallagher]

Every so often, someone will post a link to a shop in the midwest that can machine a crank and connecting rod to use bearings. Does anyone remember the link?

 

[aschumacher]

Dave, I wouldnt be suprised if Kirk Engines (see sponser link) might be able to do that. They just souped-up an engine for Kraig. Others may give you further info.

 

[jbliler]

Ok, I need to know what to look for that makes a gear drive jump out of third under light load.

 

[kweaver]

shifting fork ... or your light touch not MAN enough to put it in gear !

 

[ebroberts]

A ball and spring on the shifting rod keep it in gear. A weak spring will let it jump out of gear. This problem appears on many larger transmissions, also. New spring usually fixes it.

 

[dsauve]

Shane if you are looking for a loader and a tiller tractor. Why not use the tiller for counter weight? The only problem is sharing the pto. If you aren't runnig a factory loader an inline pump would take care of that.

 

[dclinansmith]

David G. I am sure you're talking about Brian Millers Pulling Tractors in Columbia,Mo. I think this is the current link http://members.aol.com/pullingtractor/tips.htm I believe he had removed some of that info the last time I looked on his site. If you have access to a milling machine it is easy to bore the rod for the installation of inserts. Somewhere in my shop I have the info in hard copy let me know if you need a copy mailed to you.

 

[kweaver]

Buck - What you say makes more sense but when we had to have our Cub tractor fixed at the shop decades ago the guy said it was the fork. That sucker would jump out of high gear going down hill and it twernt no fun !

<font size="-2">I still say JB isn't MAN enough to put it in gear </font>

 

[ebroberts]

Sorry Ken, I can see that you are after JB for some reason and I promise never to "make sense" in public again. There............I'm cured.

 

[speterson]

Well, since the tiller does it's fair share of shaking on it's own, I'll put it on the 1650 this year.
I'm modifying a Johnson number 10 loader to go on my cub and I'll stick it on the 1450.
I do some spring tilling in a few of the nearby neighborhoods to earn cub money. Some of the gardens are to tight to fit a tiller and loader in so I'll keep them on seperate tractors rather than doing an inline loader pump.

 

[kweaver]

Yeah BUT anybody with the initials "JB" deserves a hard time

 

[kweaver]

Shane - On those close quarters you could take the loader bucket off , it'd make for easier steering too with the extra weight gone.