Why are there so many Models?

tkhoffman · Jul 29, 2023

Why did Cub make so many models?
I can understand different attachment options and tire style, hydraulic lift 's manual, but why have so many different engines within, basically the same metal body and frame?

Doug Rusk · Jul 29, 2023

So the consumer thought it was the newest and latest and greatest and would be enticed to buy them. Also, different engines might be due to availability issues from suppliers as well as different power needs depending on the size of the area the machine was used to take care of. And there were small changes updates to I'm sure which further validated model changes, at least to some extent.

snicklas · Jul 29, 2023

Cost was another factor. The 7/8 horse models were normally “bare bones“ machines (they could be optioned up) and sold at a lower price. They could do the same work as the larger hp tractors, maybe not as well, but still could. The 14/16/17 hp models could do some of the work better, but came at a higher cost, and normally had more “standard features“ than other models. The hydraulic lift is nice with the heavier attachments, like a snow thrower or a tiller. I know on the 149, 14/1650 they came standard with lights and hydraulic lift… but they cost more than an 86/800….

PACub100 · Jul 29, 2023

snicklas said:
Cost was another factor. The 7/8 horse models were normally “bare bones“ machines (they could be optioned up) and sold at a lower price. They could do the same work as the larger hp tractors, maybe not as well, but still could. The 14/16/17 hp models could do some of the work better, but came at a higher cost, and normally had more “standard features“ than other models. The hydraulic lift is nice with the heavier attachments, like a snow thrower or a tiller. I know on the 149, 14/1650 they came standard with lights and hydraulic lift… but they cost more than an 86/800….

Just like the automotive industry. Trying to cover all consumers depending on needs and budget...

tkhoffman · Jul 30, 2023

Makes sense.
I just thought it would be cost affective to just have one powerhouse.
Thanks

Curt Doles · Jul 30, 2023

If you divide the number of models over years produced, my 2284 was , I believe the first year of production was 1961 and the last 97. I counted roughly 125 divided by 36 year production = 3.7 per year.

tdoyle · Jul 30, 2023

I always thought the dates were from 1961 to 1981 to be an IH made tractor.

Curt Doles · Jul 30, 2023

I think that's true, IH sold to Mtd in 81. A lot of good tractors built on the same concept 81 to 97.

R Mass1 · Jul 31, 2023

I have owned several IH CC's. My keepers for decades were a 109 (10HP, manual lift) and a 149 (14HP, hydraulic lift). Both worked excellently. I liked the MANUAL lift on the 109 because if I came upon a stump/rock unexpectedly, then I could quickly grab the handle and raise the deck to clear the obstacle without causing any damage. The 149's Hydraulic lift will not raise up as high in such a case. Both were workhorses for me for a long time, As far as running? The 109's 10 HP Kohler would struggle just a little bit more (just had to throttle up a bit more) than the 149's 14 HP in high grass for example but not extremely so. Both have the 44" decks. I finally sold the 109 a few years back just because of storage constraints, but I kinda still miss it. I kept the 149 because of the larger engine, hydraulic lift, and tractor tires with wheel weights. I've owned it for over 30 years now and still use it although, currently, I have a stuck pulley on one outside blade that I've got to fix/replace sometime. I've never had to run any of mine over 1/2 to 3/4 throttle. Just my input.

1811Cub · Aug 2, 2023

I have a wide array of 82 series units, from a 1050, to a 782 Diesel. ALL do basic yard duties well, even the 1050, which has comparable power to my 1210's. They are equal since the 1210's hydros use more engine power output to turn the pump. The 1811 never breaks sweat, nor does the diesel, even in thick tall wet grass.