Please I.D. this model for me.

[Todd]

I'm thinking about maybe, possibly, if things work out..... taking a peek at this rascal.

Seller is short on information but, what caught my eye was that it has a PTO and a there-point set up for trailer spotting.

Any insight would be appreciated as to general model and a rough age on it.

Regards, Todd.

 

[dschwandt]

109 or 129 or a 149 depending on the engine 10 HP, 12HP or 14HP
Check the serial number to be sure

 

[Todd]

109 or 129 or a 149 depending on the engine 10 HP, 12HP or 14HP
Check the serial number to be sure

Thank you for that quick return. I assume the engines are generally interchangeable throughout the models then - or is that a dangerous assumption?

Todd.

 

[digger]

Thank you for that quick return. I assume the engines are generally interchangeable throughout the models then - or is that a dangerous assumption?

Todd.

Get the serial number to know exactly what it is.
http://cubfaq.com/serialnumbers.html

 

[Todd]

Get the serial number to know exactly what it is.
http://cubfaq.com/serialnumbers.html

Thank you for the link. I'm guessing this is it - painted over.

When the fella contacts me, I'll see if he can get it for me. It is several hours away for just checking but in point of fact, if it runs and operates, I'm going to go up and get it.

Should I really care about what model it is? Is there any significant difference or anything to avoid?

Todd.

 

[dschwandt]

Just the engine size is all
Although the 149's had hydraulic lift
So I'm guessing it's a 149.
Machine code should be one of the following
for a 149, 0047, 0205, 0206 or 0224

 

[danderson]

I would say 149 based on hydraulic lift also.

 

[snicklas]

Seeing the headlight switch on the pedestal, and the hydro transmission and lift, my guess would be a 149, since factory they had all 3. Plus, it looks like the blower housing is almost filling the frame (the 14's have a larger blower housing (flywheel/fan) than the 10 and 12's). But as said above, a 1x9 could have the lift and lights added. But gut reaction to me would be a 149 (my favorite model (Sorry Kraig))......

For the engine interchangeability.... best answer is sorta. From the 70-169, yes they will interchange. They all used the same oil pan, and when bolted to the frame, should all be in the spot for the driveshaft and the belt routing. However, you might have to swap some of the "bolt on" items. For example, the 70 used a pepper shaker muffler out the carb side of the tractor, bit the 149 uses an elbow and muffler that blows out the starter side. Earlier engines have dipsitcks that insert from under the hood, just beside the starter/generator. In the later 1x6/7' and in the 1x8/9's they had a dipstick on the cam cover, just below and in front of the carb. 70-1x6/7 have the gas tank mount bolted to the top of the engine and the battery is under the hood On the 1x8/9 the gas tank is on the pedstal, and the battery is under the seat. There are some differences in the "tins" on the engine, and sparrk plug location in the head. Now, if you are looking at an enging from an Quietline 800-1650, then there are more differences when it comes to the engine. They could be used, it is just much less bolt in, than an earlier engine.

 

[jkoenig]

Scott's post above has lots of good information. Orrrr, you could save yourself some trouble, and just contact me about my brand new 14 hp engine designed just for that model tractor.

Should I really care about what model it is? Is there any significant difference or anything to avoid?

Excellent point of view. There are things to really appreciate about all models. I think you will find that one to be especially easy to enjoy. That being said, listen to Digger, and get the serial to know exactly what it is, for parts, etc.

 

[sgalante]

When someone mentions a model heaving a PTO, I usually associate that with a rear PTO. I know some of the larger Cubs had true PTO's but did the 149, or whatever this model is, have a rear PTO? I know my 1512 and most other models have the toggle switch on the dash that is marked as PTO, but it just powers the mower blades. Just a question for clarity.

 

[dschwandt]

Rear PTO's were on the IH gear drive models and, but for a show piece, pretty much useless without a reverser.

The Quiet lines were the 1st with the electric front PTO, toggle switch on left side of dash.
The 149 series had the manual PTO as shown in the pic's with the lever on the left side of the tower.

 

[PACub100]

When someone mentions a model heaving a PTO, I usually associate that with a rear PTO. I know some of the larger Cubs had true PTO's but did the 149, or whatever this model is, have a rear PTO? I know my 1512 and most other models have the toggle switch on the dash that is marked as PTO, but it just powers the mower blades. Just a question for clarity.

I'm the same - I instinctively think of the rear PTO from the larger tractors. But now, I'm getting used to the phrase on the Cubs meaning either the manual or electric clutch assembly for running attachments.

 

[Todd]

Seeing the headlight switch on the pedestal,...

Fantastic information there. Thank you for taking the time.

Todd.

 

[Todd]

When someone mentions a model heaving a PTO, I usually associate that with a rear PTO. I know some of the larger Cubs had true PTO's but did the 149, or whatever this model is, have a rear PTO? I know my 1512 and most other models have the toggle switch on the dash that is marked as PTO, but it just powers the mower blades. Just a question for clarity.

Me too. I looked at his axle pic and thought he might have listed incorrectly but, no. Fortunately, I'd only want a PTO for a son-blower up in the mountains.... Maybe cob-on an emergency generator or water pump as well.

Todd.

 

[hydroharry]

Todd - I agree with most of the others that this tractor is very likely a Model 149, mostly because of the hydraulic lift and light switch (even tho it doesn't have the rear tail lights as it should, and you can't see the headlights).

But boy oh boy the old girl looks rough. I see 4 mis-matched tires, rear fenders slightly pushed in, aftermarket seat without original seat springs, hood twisted so likely the fiberglass dash has a broken support. I'd be really surprised if she runs. All in all she is gonna need a lot of work ($$$$$). I'm not saying it can't be done because it can, but if you are located around Phoenix I just don't think you're gonna find much if any used parts close by so you'll have to get everything shipped.

Also, not sure why you're saying "what caught my eye is that it has a PTO". You can't see the PTO in the pics you posted. The only PTO is on the front of the engine/tractor. You also mentioned it having a three-point set up, and yes you can partially see it in one pic. It appears to have an adapter of some sort added to it. What's nice about a three-point on this tractor is that it's hydraulic.

 

[hydroharry]

Todd - sorry I overlooked your last posting with the discussion about the PTO. If you're thinking of using it to thro/blo snow you'd have to get the pretty specific snow thrower made to go with it, that is unless you're good at cobblin' up something. With the correct snow thrower made to go with it (IH Model QA42A) it could be a terrific snow machine.
As for an emergency generator or water pump I'll have to let others advise, but generally I don't see these uses. There was an option for an electrical generator back in the day, but I believe it was pretty small.

 

[mfrade]

As for an emergency generator or water pump I'll have to let others advise, but generally I don't see these uses. There was an option for an electrical generator back in the day, but I believe it was pretty small.

4500 watts, I got one that mounts on the front, got it from a guy with a 100.

 

[Todd]

Well now... I got the fella on the phone and he assures me that it runs well.

As to its general state - here in Arizona, beggars have to be careful how chosey they are. I can get a yearly parts run out of Minnesota if I can't order whatever I need that is still available.

The points noted in Hydroharry's post above will be well used when I have eyes on it Monday.

For PTOing a water pump or generator - that'll be as alternatives to toting either one about whether pumping water at the stock-tank or generating power in the woods without toting a generator - as long as I can get the wattage up for electric chain saws. Did the same with a Deere but a fella offered me too much money for me to keep one of those goofy green & yeller beasts around.

Todd.

 

[hydroharry]

Todd - pretty much all the stuff I mentioned is basically cosmetic and doesn't effect the tractor running and driving. The optional generator mentioned for use with the tractor is a Pincor. They are fairly rare and sought after by a lot of IHCC collectors if they are the correct optional item. Just something to keep in mind as you move forward with your decision.

 

[Todd]

Looks like I'm not getting it as it was playing out like a craigslist scam.

Todd.