My Cub Shop mess !

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Seems this year I have left things go in my Garage (said lightly). I spent most of the summer getting my nomad MC running great with many Jet changes (6),and camping . I now mow grass for other people and There Never Seems to be Time for everything.Oh retirement has not been all that lay back for me.

who else built a shop way to small !!!!28'x30' and two 10'x14' storage sheds and it is all pick a walk way .I did by a new compressor for the sand blaster .

This day will be lost in getting this all moved around .

The weather has me getting this done and I`am itching to work at my tractors !

 

[vthomley]

Don, Looks like my shed, just different... I call it an organized mess. My shed is 30x40, and yes it is not big enough.

I was looking at my mess last night, I have 7 Cub Cadets in my shed, there were 9 prior to last Saturday. My brother and my dad took theirs home.

I don't have any inside pics. Here's a pic of of the shed along with my house from 2009, the spruce trees are now taller than me.

 

[dfrisk]

DON - I like your choice of compressor, but you bought too small of one. I don't think Porter-Cable makes my compressor anymore, full 7-1/2 HP motor, 80 gal tank, two stage compressor rated 25 CFM @ 175 PSI.

I've got fewer CC's than you, but my Super H & M Farmalls trump two of your CC's, they both have loaders on them, but the big 80 inch wide snow bucket isn't on the M's loader. I park them both with the loaders raised so I have more floor room in my 24X36 shop. I really need a 24X24 addition to the back to get both Farmall's out of the way, but I'm not happy with the idea of adding on to an existing concrete foundation.

Your work bench looks about like mine, not even room to set a beer can down, but I don't have a computer on my shop bench.

 

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Dennis Frisk

The new compressor is 6.5 hp twin cylinder 60 gallon with 135 psi at 10.4scfm at 90 psi. it`s an improvment over what I had , and it did cost me one fitting . Denny I hope this will work , my idea

, I have a 100 gl tank in my shed and I want to plum them together for my sand blaster . I`am thinking of a light on the hose or someplace that I can see while blasting. I will fill the 100 gallon tank and then start sand blasting. Stop when the compresor starts to run ,I`am thinking of running 1" out to the sand blaster, I bet it will work great till it is air starved!

My bench has everything from a pool close out kit to empty paint cans , But I can find my way.

But I did get a 6' wall and a 10' section usable today.. I friend gave me this engine stand and I`am planning on making a stand to start and run my cubs engine. The shelf will hold the battey. I just need someone who has no shop and wants what I should give away lol.

 

[dschwandt]

Hi Gang,
I have bare frame from a 682 and thinking of converting it to an engine stand.
Maybe cut it off just behind the tower and leave the throttle, choke and ignition controls. Maybe build it waist level with workbench space olong one side/end and incorporate wheels intothe support.

I'm also in the market for an air compressor. Been looking at Quincys here at a local distributor.

Dave S.

 

[dfrisk]

DON - I have the 40# Eastwood or Harbor Freight pressure blaster I run with my compressor. With a new tip on the blast gun my compressor will start up, run several minutes, get caught up and shut off for several minutes. As the tip wears it runs more and more, but I never loose enough pressure to notice before I run out of sand. I normally blast about 200-250# of quartz sand per tip. By then a 2 or 2.5 MM tip is between 4 and 5 MM.

I think you'll be O-K with an extra 100 gallons of extra air. Make sure that 100 gal tank is pressure rated. My Uncle blew up a 20 gal compressor tank years ago in his garage. Tank turned itself inside-out, blew the exterior wall of his garage off the foundation, plus blew the common wall with the garage & living room of his house off the basement wall. I guess he never heard you're supposed to drain the water condensate out of compressed air tanks!

For connecting the two tanks, 3/8 or 1/2 inch air line is plenty. I have 1/2" hose from my compressor to my filter/dryer, but the last hose from the filter/dryer to the blasting pot is 3/8".

I actually use the blaster more than I thought I would. It really works good for cleaning up parts for paint. If I had a blast cabinent I'd use it a WHOLE lot more. Then I could recycle the sand too.

 

[dfrisk]

DAVE - I never really saw the need for an engine test stand. I just drop the engine into the tractor, hook everything up and start them up!

On the compressor, the US made Quincy's are the best there is anymore. They're not cheap. SON bought a 40 yr old Quincy about 3 months ago. It was used at a truck stop along Interstate 80 in my home town for 25+ yrs, then retired to a body shop for another 10-12 yrs, then SON got it. It's motor is only rated 3 HP and 20A full load 220V. My full 7-1/2 HP compressor motor pulls 32A 220V, and SON's compressor makes 5/8th the CFM @ 175 PSI at 40+ yrs old as my compressor does. All their US made compressors are pressure lubricated, and some even have oil filters. They run slower than most compressors so are very quiet and last FOREVER. Not cheap though. New compressor similar to SON on an 80 gal tank is over $2500.

 

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David Schwandt

(I'm also in the market for an air compressor. Been looking at Quincys here at a local distributor. )

you would need to give us some idea as to what you plan to use the air for, Air tools need 90 psi to run good and air compressors to sand blaster needs lots of stand by air.

On you engine stand , I have come up with what I think we need . because we all have a storage issue . I want my engine stand only to hold the engine I`am rebuilding , would be nice to test and start and run that engine. One could time it and not break your back.Would be nice to be sure you have all the bases covered and know what you drop the K into it`s home it will do it`s job.I have had some luck in the running of rebuilds, I have rebuilt most of my Cub engines with great results.

 

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I just laid this air line out to roll it up and store . thats is when I see that I have more than one of the 50' line lol. I think I have 350 ' and I`am not shure why

, plus the 20' on the wall spool. I could drag air anywhere in my yard lol.

 

[dfrisk]

DAVID, DON - Air compressors for a shop are like the shop themselves. Once you get it, and find out how useful they are, you dream up many many NEW uses for them and soon they're too small.

I looked at 5 HP Ingersol-Rand compressors for years before I bought my big one. The local Home Depot had a 7-1/2 HP 80 gal I-R on the floor for 2-3 years and I went in one Saturday morning to BUY that compressor, with a decent discount. I went all the way up to the store manager and they wouldn't budge on price, so about an hour later SON & I were unloading the new P-C 7-1/2 HP compressor in the shop. Farm & Fleet had the best deal on the P-C and they were only about 6-7 miles from H-D, and home. I actually like the P-C better, has some features I like better than the I-R.

I now have 2-3 air die grinders, impact & air ratchet, 5-6 paint guns, impact hammer/chisel, couple air sanders, and a sheet metal nibbler. For small engine work the best tool I bought was a 3/8" butterfly impact wrench. With it I can pull a 1-cyl Kohler apart in about 10 minutes. The hard part is getting the flywheel off. Other than the big nut on the flywheel there's only three sizes of bolts/nuts on a Kohler, 7/16", 1/2", & 9/16".

 

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Dennis Frisk
Denny I have used my bigger IR air impcat guns and have let friends use them with a few warnings. It will snap off a wheel stud on a 2500 truck after one snap.I have put on 1 1/4" nuts on trailer balls that were a bear to get off with a 12" pipe wrench.But I think it was over 4H$ here. Dang they are asembled in the USA ,

 

[jbaker]

Don, tomorrow I will post a picture of my garage's mess.

Here is a picture of 2 storage bin mess's that I once pulled a cub from

 

[jbaker]

Don didn't someone

roll up a cord and xmas lights with a rare cub "cord reel attatchment" once..

 

[kide]

Don:
You may not have done it on purpose, but I did... My workshop is centrally located on a 150' x 300' acre lot. I've got enough good air hose to reach and work any place on the property. Really was nice driving two coil roofers a few years ago when I redid the shop and house. I've drgged the ait hose into the house several itmes. It's much nicer than having either the hotdog or pancake (mmmmm foood) portables running that go on evry two or three shots. I did some drywall in the house (the one thing I hate worse than painting walls) and used my big flatboard sander to finish the mudded joints.

Jeff: Be nice now......... I only did it twice..

 

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Gerry Ide , jeff l baker ,Vincent Thomley

I think we have most of the tools we will ever need that most won`t never buy to use. that is fine if you never get old and then find better ways to do what ever you need done. I have seen the light and I am still getting my shop sorted for me .

 

[dfrisk]

DON - IR makes a great impact. I bought SON the IR combination kit 8-10 yrs ago, the IR "Thundergun", and "Lightning" air ratchet.

We put a second pair of wheel weights on the Super H one winter, DAD & I swapped wheel weights for Christmas, I gave him a pair for his Cub LowBoy, and I got a pair of H/M wheel weights he had hidden! The 3/4" square headed bolts were ALL beat up. I borrowed a die & die stock from work, and nothing would get the nut to run down the hammered-up bolts. SON grabs his I-R impact and it buzzes that nut all the way down to the end of the threads, he reverses it and buzzes it off. The nut falls out of the deep socket and I reach down to pick it up... I heard my fingertips SIZZLE! It was that hot from the friction heat. I tried using my old CP 734 impact and it wouldn't budge the nut. What a difference 20+ yrs makes in tool performance!

GERRY - I have two of those small portable compressors, both Porter-Cable, their 4 gal pancake compressor, and the bigger twin tank Contractors compressor. Either one makes more air than my first two compressors COMBINED. One is down in MOM's garage in case I need to air up her car tires, the Contractor's compressor is on loan to SON. But since his Quincy is running I hope to get it back soon. Both portables run on 115V normal 15A houshold outlets. I have enough air hose to run from the shop to the house but having the small compressor handy to make pressure adjustments works better when I install trim in a room. I HATE setting finishing nails on finished trim. If the nail set slips you have to touch-up the stain.

If I had to use my framing nailer a lot, I'd probably run the air hose and use the shop compressor. My brad nailer shoots about 20-25 brads on one run cycle of the contractors compressor.

 

[wcompton]

I've been budgeting for one of these-
http://www.c-aireinc.com/Fact%20Sheet%20PDF/A015P020-1115.pdf

Travis recommended the C-Aire brand, and now that I've talked to a couple shops that run them, I'm sure I'll be happy with it.

I'd go bigger, but until the shop gets built, I want to have something mobile, not needing a dedicated space.

I have access to as many 2206 cu.in. DOT air tanks as I'd like (about 9.5 gallons), so if I need to have more reserve volume in the future, it's a feasible option.

 

[aaytay]

Wyatt-
I have an 80-gallon/5hp C-Aire compressor in my shop. The BEST "tool" I've ever purchased! You're going to love any of the C-Aire compressors.

 

[kide]

At one time, Campbell-Hausfield had a "Premium" line of compressors, not as good as the low speed C-Aire's or Quincy's but they had cast iron jugs, a real 5 Horse motor and even came with the magnetic starter. I got an 80 gallon, 18 CFM at 175 PSI two stage for under $1000.00 at a warehouse store, on the worst foggy night I've ever driven in. I had to go home get a trailer and load it (it was bolted to a pallet), but when I saw the price, I wasn't going to take chances on them deciding it was mismarked. That was in '92... I keep good Mobil Rarus compressor oil in it, drain the tank on a regular basis and run any air tool I want.. I use 1/4 ceramic nozzles in the media nbalsting cabinet and never have a problem with the pump keeping up .. Like Dennis says, once you've got a good compressor, you never run out of ideas for using it..

 

[dfrisk]

GERRY - WOW!!!! You use 1/4" orfice nozzles? I forget exactly where I read it but a 1/8" dia hole passes 15 CFM of air @ 90 PSI. But a larger orfice does eliminate plugging when blasting. First time we tried to use the blast pot SON bought 75 or 100# bag of "Play Sand" from a big box store. Only a few Dollars but the larger particles constantly plugged the nozzel and we got nothing done. Then we used the 40# buckets of Aluminum oxide from Harbor Freight. Cut really well but WAY too expensive for not reclaiming. SON finally found a Concrete contractors supply shop that sells crushed and sized quartz sand for $10/100# bag. Cuts as good at the Alumina at a small fraction of the cost.

Most of my air tools are not frequently used, like the air nibbler for sheet metal I've only used one time, but it did a great job on 22 ga steel sheet. The air chisel I don't use often, but when removing rivets from truck frame rails when replacing suspension bushings, or leaf spring perches it's the perfect tool to knock the rivets out after grinding off one rivet head. The bigger CP 1/4" die grinder is the most often used air tool. It runs everything from cut-off wheels, grind stones, cartidge rolls, carbide burrs, you name it. I think I use it more than all my 4-1/2" angle grinders combined.