Goodyear tires

[Ken Black]

hello.
wondering if anyone knows if goodyear still makes the 23x8.50-12 tires that came on the old cubs ??
iam unable to find them on there site. but who knows with goodyear..
or if someone has a fair set they might like to off..
or lol
a tire that works as good as the goodyear..
i till with my cubs and the goodyears work fine. i thought about a pair of ags. but i will be mowering also. so ags wont be to good for me ..
i have 3 cubs so ill be looking for low price lol ... not able to spend 400 or more bucks on 3 sets of rears.

think i put this in the wrong cat. grrrrrr lol sorry

 

[Ken Black]

bein over the time frame here is a edit add to my OP...

no iam unable to tube one or two tires... aired one up and on thred itself oooo boy... dry rott baddddddddddd..... at the point the thred was bubbling half inch above rest and just breaking apart or i would tube them ...

 

[spndncash]

I am 99% sure Goodyear no longer makes the original tires. There may be similar treads but they won’t have the Goodyear name in them. Tread patterns are typically trademarked so they cannot be copied. The tire was used in may brands and a quick search of the “bay” showed several for sale. A word of warning that tires continue to vulcanize especially in the sun. So they will become harder and dry out (crack) no matter the storage methods. I would not expect great performance or longevity out of any old rubber product. NOS or used it continues to age. If you want to use the tractor regularly then buy new tires if you want a shoe piece then the used tires are fine. They may be very difficult to dismount or mount considering how much they have dried and become inflexible. I would fully expect you to need tubes to hold air

 

[Ken Black]

I am 99% sure Goodyear no longer makes the original tires. There may be similar treads but they won’t have the Goodyear name in them. Tread patterns are typically trademarked so they cannot be copied. The tire was used in may brands and a quick search of the “bay” showed several for sale. A word of warning that tires continue to vulcanize especially in the sun. So they will become harder and dry out (crack) no matter the storage methods. I would not expect great performance or longevity out of any old rubber product. NOS or used it continues to age. If you want to use the tractor regularly then buy new tires if you want a shoe piece then the used tires are fine. They may be very difficult to dismount or mount considering how much they have dried and become inflexible. I would fully expect you to need tubes to hold air

i was sort of worried on goodyear not making them no more... bummer for sure.. maybe if we all got togther and showed them there was a market .. who knows ...

2nd bummer part... sort from ags the tires online today. they show a picture of one patern you wind up with something else hahhaha ...

ty tho for info on goodyear... ill have to think on the tire.. have month n half i think till weather breaks ...

 

[spndncash]

You could buy some good used already mounted tires paint the wheels to match and they should work and last for a while. Case, Deere, simplicity, Sears, etc etc very likely the wheels are the same since none of them build their own wheels. You can get a replacement tire in your leisure.

 

[kmcconaughey]

What is your yard like, hilly, flat? Is the soil typically firm and dry or wet and soft? The ag tread will be less likely to slip and tear up the lawn if your yard is hilly as you'll have better traction, especially if the grass is at all wet. Unless your soil is really wet I doubt that a Cub Cadet weighs enough that it will indent the soil with ag tread tires. The Cub Cadet (an Original) in my avatar has two sets of weights on it one inside the rim one outside for around 52 lbs per wheel and the ag tires do not dig up my yard at all. My yard is a sandy clay loam and is typically on the dry side. I don't use it for mowing but it does get driven around my yard for other purposes. There are some ATV tires that could work well if you don't absolutely have to have vintage style tread.

 

[Ken Black]

You could buy some good used already mounted tires paint the wheels to match and they should work and last for a while. Case, Deere, simplicity, Sears, etc etc very likely the wheels are the same since none of them build their own wheels. You can get a replacement tire in your leisure.

i think sears and some of the others are diff wheels... my air steam is on outside. sears has it inside. steam hits the brakes... seen it on a few videos... not what i want lol ... get a chunk of mud in there and rip goes the steam lol
but i was wondering as i thought same there more or less same company making them.. i could weld up the hole and make a new one on outside lol . but i have a few rims ..
buts its ideas for sure ty

What is your yard like, hilly, flat? Is the soil typically firm and dry or wet and soft? The ag tread will be less likely to slip and tear up the lawn if your yard is hilly as you'll have better traction, especially if the grass is at all wet. Unless your soil is really wet I doubt that a Cub Cadet weighs enough that it will indent the soil with ag tread tires. The Cub Cadet (an Original) in my avatar has two sets of weights on it one inside the rim one outside for around 52 lbs per wheel and the ag tires do not dig up my yard at all. My yard is a sandy clay loam and is typically on the dry side. I don't use it for mowing but it does get driven around my yard for other purposes. There are some ATV tires that could work well if you don't absolutely have to have vintage style tread.

lil bit of hill. in a 100ft line it drops 10foot i think .. so 1/10 like a roof lol .. but 1ft per 10ft.
farm dirt. was farm so not sure what you call it. but good dirt. no sand maybe lil clay here n there. area is shall and clay told by the well company when they drilled.

the other issue is ... i have 2 running cubs. tillers blowers plows blades.
one was goin to be mower n tiller as its easy to leave the maul on ..
2nd one was goin to be blower and plow..
half acer to maybe 3/4 tille .
i have the old goodyears on the main cub and they seem fine on all of the proprty.
i do have chains and if need weight i can washer fluid them .. but the tilling i did do with it last year seem to be good with the GYs ..

the 2nd cub needs tires .. thats going to be blower and plow.

so i guess a good tread would be ok .. just have to figure out what ones. lol

 

[spndncash]

No matter what brand tractor the wheels came on originally you still need to get the correct offset. And valve stem arrangement. I don’t know what you are calling the inside and outside of the rim but a quick look in the bay showed 4 different sets of Goodyear tires mounted on rims.
as before I would suggest if you want to use the tractor buy new tires - turf, industrial, Ag or whatever suits your need. There are plenty of choices in your size. Yes they may be 60 dollars a tire but consider your last set lasted 60 years. That’s a dollar a year for each tire. I personally use the deestone or Carlisle they wear better for me and clean out much quicker when they do get mud in them.

 

[spndncash]

No matter what brand tractor the wheels came on originally you still need to get the correct offset. And valve stem arrangement. I don’t know what you are calling the inside and outside of the rim but a quick look in the bay showed 4 different sets of Goodyear tires mounted on rims.
as before I would suggest if you want to use the tractor buy new tires - turf, industrial, Ag or whatever suits your need. There are plenty of choices in your size. Yes they may be 60 dollars a tire but consider your last set lasted 60 years. That’s a dollar a year for each tire.

 

[spndncash]

Sorry I had this problem before with my posts going twice.

 

[Ken Black]

No matter what brand tractor the wheels came on originally you still need to get the correct offset. And valve stem arrangement. I don’t know what you are calling the inside and outside of the rim but a quick look in the bay showed 4 different sets of Goodyear tires mounted on rims.
as before I would suggest if you want to use the tractor buy new tires - turf, industrial, Ag or whatever suits your need. There are plenty of choices in your size. Yes they may be 60 dollars a tire but consider your last set lasted 60 years. That’s a dollar a year for each tire. I personally use the deestone or Carlisle they wear better for me and clean out much quicker when they do get mud in them.

naa i get it all lol..
inside would be trans side of wheel.... ive seen vids where they put they say sears wheels with stem inside. hits brake.
yeah there to me not made as good old goodyears 50 years ago lol .. but i was looking at carlisle. have a few on other tractors. the mtd clones. the beaters hahhah ..

thanks tho for the info and help..

 

[mfrade]

hello.
wondering if anyone knows if goodyear still makes the 23x8.50-12 tires that came on the old cubs ??
iam unable to find them on there site. but who knows with goodyear..or if someone has a fair set they might like to off..
or lol
a tire that works as good as the goodyear..
i till with my cubs and the goodyears work fine.
i have 3 cubs so ill be looking for low price lol ... not able to spend 400 or more bucks on 3 sets of rears.
think i put this in the wrong cat. grrrrrr lol sorry

I've got a pair of Goodyears from an early CC tractor, I haven't tried to fill'em with air in decades and last year a fella on here wanted the rims until he saw the shipping costs.. but the tires are loose. I can snap a pic or two if you like'em you can have'em.

 

[Ken Black]

I've got a pair of Goodyears from an early CC tractor, I haven't tried to fill'em with air in decades and last year a fella on here wanted the rims until he saw the shipping costs.. but the tires are loose. I can snap a pic or two if you like'em you can have'em.

sure toss me one or 2. new to this board so if need my email pm me. shipping u dont box them just strap them like the old news papers use to be lol ..

 

[awoloch]

Good discussion.

What would be the best choices for new front and back tires for a 1964 Cub Cadet 100 used primarily for mowing on fairly level ground?

 

[pdbuck]

Try Miller Tire.com 800-621-1955 X4. they may be able to help you.

 

[Ken Black]

Good discussion.

What would be the best choices for new front and back tires for a 1964 Cub Cadet 100 used primarily for mowing on fairly level ground?

any you can afford i would guess..

i called goodyear. they sold the ag side to titan tire. waiting on email from them to see min piece count for repop.. will it happen i doubt it... they probley didnt get the molds from goodyear. but doesnt hurt to ask lol

 

[Ken Black]

Try Miller Tire.com 800-621-1955 X4. they may be able to help you.

i would be all over this tire. butttttttttt lol grrrr its only a 8 not a 8.50 dang companys lol
reading its ad i guess it would fit and be close as its specs are
Owerall Width: 8.4"
Ply Rating: 4 ply tubeless
Rim Width: 7" to 8.5"


https://www.millertire.com/products/lawn-garden-tires/23x-8-00-12/23x8-00-12-carlisle-all-trail/

 

[dfrisk]

Maury Taylor who owns TITAN INDUSTRIES bought Good Year ag tires years ago, they even sell GY big ag tractor tires, but the lawn & garden tires are branded Carlyle. IF you will run your Cubbies ob loose tilled ground by all means buy lugged tires. I've mowed with FIRESTONE lugged tires for about 20 years now. WAY less damage from tires slipping while climbing hills. I'm about ready to put lugged tires on my zero turn mower because the turf tires are tearing the heck out of the grass in many places.
I dealt with Maury Taylor some when he was putting the deal together for French &Hecht wheel company in Davenport & Walcott, Iowa. He kinda offered me a job, but Hey, I was working for INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER! You don't quit on IH. Maury bought Electric Wheel Company in Quincy, Ill. The large wheel/rim plant of French & Hecht was torn down and property sold to the city of Davenport. It was right across River Drive from the southern most bridge going over to Arsenal Island. Just the small rim/wheel plant in Wolcott still runs as a Titan Wheel plant.
I'd look at M.E.Miller tire company for garden tractor tires. They actually bought the molds for FIRESTONE'S 23 DEGREE lugged tires, and had the molds for 23-10.50x12 made, very popular size. Been my experience that FIRESTONE ag tires lasted way way Longer without weather checking. I have a Firestone tire on my 1951 Farmall M that is at least 60 years old, maybe a couple years older. NO WEATHER CHECKING. All my GY tires that were on Cub Cadets from the factory have weather checked and/or ripped the tire casings apart because the nylon cords detriorated so bad.
I'm not sure what quality of rubber Miller has put on their FIRESTONE lugged garden tractor tires, but I've never heard anybody complain about them. Both my sets are old enough to be made by Firestone, one set is 20 years old, still looks brand new, other set is about 15 years old, also looks brand new.

 

[Ken Black]

i might do AGs yet. not 100% sure yet.. as ill be using the cubs as a snowblower . tho i have chains. you still only get traction when the lug comes down to ground. i would think a more normal style would be better for winter use.
so iam sort of leaning to all around ..

oooo i got it.. ill just swap out tires to each tractor as i use it lol hahhahah

Maury Taylor who owns TITAN INDUSTRIES bought Good Year ag tires years ago, they even sell GY big ag tractor tires, but the lawn & garden tires are branded Carlyle. IF you will run your Cubbies ob loose tilled ground by all means buy lugged tires. I've mowed with FIRESTONE lugged tires for about 20 years now. WAY less damage from tires slipping while climbing hills. I'm about ready to put lugged tires on my zero turn mower because the turf tires are tearing the heck out of the grass in many places.
I dealt with Maury Taylor some when he was putting the deal together for French &Hecht wheel company in Davenport & Walcott, Iowa. He kinda offered me a job, but Hey, I was working for INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER! You don't quit on IH. Maury bought Electric Wheel Company in Quincy, Ill. The large wheel/rim plant of French & Hecht was torn down and property sold to the city of Davenport. It was right across River Drive from the southern most bridge going over to Arsenal Island. Just the small rim/wheel plant in Wolcott still runs as a Titan Wheel plant.
I'd look at M.E.Miller tire company for garden tractor tires. They actually bought the molds for FIRESTONE'S 23 DEGREE lugged tires, and had the molds for 23-10.50x12 made, very popular size. Been my experience that FIRESTONE ag tires lasted way way Longer without weather checking. I have a Firestone tire on my 1951 Farmall M that is at least 60 years old, maybe a couple years older. NO WEATHER CHECKING. All my GY tires that were on Cub Cadets from the factory have weather checked and/or ripped the tire casings apart because the nylon cords detriorated so bad.
I'm not sure what quality of rubber Miller has put on their FIRESTONE lugged garden tractor tires, but I've never heard anybody complain about them. Both my sets are old enough to be made by Firestone, one set is 20 years old, still looks brand new, other set is about 15 years old, also looks brand new.

 

[kmcconaughey]

Denny, I was hoping you would chime in on this. I learned that ag tires are OK to use on turf from you.