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    New member, 184 starting issues :-(

    Thanks for that info Mike. That is a good point about the distributor plate. It doesn't look like the distributor plate can move as there are three screws that hold it in place, including the cap hold down arms/screws. However, looking into the parts manual, it does show advance springs...
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    New member, 184 starting issues :-(

    All input welcome!! I did recheck firing order the other day. It is 1-3-4-2. Pretty sure it is cast in the block as well, behind the carb. Good point, keep 'em coming. One of these will hopefully be my issue.
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    New member, 184 starting issues :-(

    Thanks Kraig, I apprecitated your help! Scott, good point on the carb. I definitely have fuel to the carb. At first, when I flushed out the gas tank, I took the fuel bowl off and cleaned it out too. I don't think it had ever been off. There was a lot of debris in the screen. I put a new fuel...
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    New member, 184 starting issues :-(

    I tried to get the tractor started but the same story. I now have spark to the plugs but she will not start. I can get it close by using starting fliud, but it will not hold. I even pulled a plug out and put a little gas in the cylinder, still wont take off. I am at a loss now. I rechecked...
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    New member, 184 starting issues :-(

    I installed the "new " points, condensor, and retained the "new" rotor. The only thing different in the ignition parts is the pertronix 3 ohm coil. The spark is blue whether jumping to a head bolt or with a spark plug attached. I hope to have time tomorrow and try to get it started. I am going...
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    New member, 184 starting issues :-(

    Thanks again for everyone's feedback. I checked the coil and it has the correct ohms, 3.5, and both windings tested ok. I decided to remove the battery leads and clean all of the connections, including the main switch mounted inside the fender area. Everything cleaned up well and was put back in...
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    New member, 184 starting issues :-(

    This 184 is negative ground and a 12v system. My Dad had a 48' Farmall cub and it was 6v positive ground. I learned the hard way trying to jump start it one day. lol I have wanted to switch to pertronix because my dad would replace points,condensor, rotor at the first sign of running poorly, not...
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    New member, 184 starting issues :-(

    Sounds reasonable and I can put the points back to retest. I have read on other sites that 154/184s are notorious for bad battery grounds?? Where folks moved the grounds to the transmission or frame? I'll have to look up that info again but maybe that could help as well? Thanks Kraig for the...
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    New member, 184 starting issues :-(

    Ugh, so I now have the harness ignition connection to the + along with the red + wire from the pertronix as specified. THis leaves the black wire from the pertronix to the - side of the coil by itself. Still no spark from the coil. I verified I still have 12v on both sides with the key on. While...
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    New member, 184 starting issues :-(

    Wow, sure enough. I will spin the coil around and give it a try, wish me luck this gets her started!
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    New member, 184 starting issues :-(

    Thanks again.. I have 12.1v with the key on, and while the engine is turing over, on both sides, - and + sides of the coil. So run a wire directly from the + side of the battery to which side of the coil?? Using the pertronix, it states that the red wire goes to the + and the black wire goes...
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    New member, 184 starting issues :-(

    oh, one other thing.. the pto switch on the dash works but if you mess with it it will not allow the starter to come on. Either just old or kind-of sensitive . When it is in the off position and the starter can work, would there be any chance a faulty switch would still mess with the ignition...
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    New member, 184 starting issues :-(

    Thanks for all this info. A couple of things I have found, this tractor didn’t have a resistor and I am told that went away with the alternator models?. Also , since I have converted to pertronix the points are gone and even pertronix says to remove the resistor is any are attached. I believe...
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    New member, 184 starting issues :-(

    Hey Kraig. I took the switch out and it seems to be in good working order? I cleaned the area where it would mount to make sure it is grounded to the dash and hookEd up the wires back up. I have good continuity from the wire at the switch to the wire on the coil. I turned the key on and have...
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    New member, 184 starting issues :-(

    Thanks for the schematics! I will take the switch out and try to troubleshoot. I think I had 9volts on the coil connections? I'll check again.
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    New member, 184 starting issues :-(

    Thanks for a reply Kraig! I will get the seriel number for you later today. I do have the operator's manual, parts manual, and 2 service manuals, GS1408 and 1411. I found one schematic quickly looking through those but I am horrible at wiring and testing. I would just need to be guided as to...
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    New member, 184 starting issues :-(

    Hi everyone!! , new to this site.. Here is some background history: I have been around tractors all of my life. My father was a farmer when he was younger and always had a knack for fixing things , thus a lot of running tractors instead of projects, lol. He had many tractors over his 74 years...
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