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1974 IH Cub Cadet 1650 with 42" Mower and Blower
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You can ditch the hyd lift and use that circuit for your PS supply.
That's what I did on my 147 W/DanCo loader rig.
Mitchr97
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I'd like to keep the hyd lift. I still want to use it as a mower, and build the loader arm in a way that it's removable for when I need a fork lift or bucket. That's my plan anyway, I may add an aux Hydraulic pump and tank for the loader to keep the system separate. I do have the ported pump and I've read that I can run everything off of the factory pump, but I'm not super sure that'd be a good idea lol.
mgonitzke
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If you are using a loader, you absolutely will need an aux pump. Not sure where you read you could use the tractor's ported pump as the source, but that quite wrong and whoever wrote that has no idea what they are talking about.
The aux hydraulic circuit using the hydro unit's charge pump is meant for intermittent operation of small cylinders, like the hydraulic lift cylinder and power steering. It also has near zero flow at its maximum pressure output of 800 psi. Operating it in this fashion, if it worked at all, would overheat the fluid and shorten its life, as well as that of the hydro unit.
Plan on a 5 GPM dedicated pump capable of at least 1000 psi to run a loader.
The aux hydraulic circuit using the hydro unit's charge pump is meant for intermittent operation of small cylinders, like the hydraulic lift cylinder and power steering. It also has near zero flow at its maximum pressure output of 800 psi. Operating it in this fashion, if it worked at all, would overheat the fluid and shorten its life, as well as that of the hydro unit.
Plan on a 5 GPM dedicated pump capable of at least 1000 psi to run a loader.
Also, in addition to P/S you will need WEIGHT, as in rear weight box and fluid filled ag tires.
Do you really want to fart around mowing with possibly a 1500 pound lawn mower??
That's about what my 149 weighs with a super steer axle that came from the same donor Cub as the P/S.
And all that loader rigamarole under the tractor will likely be in the way of the deck, mule drive and deck hanger ass'y
Build a dedicated loader rig, you will be amazed at how handy it will become by adding a light (think SNOW) bucket as well as a set of forks. and you won't be constantly removing and re-installing stuff every week or so.
Do you pump and the whole 9 yardshave any clue what it will cost to build one?
You will likely be looking at $400+ just for hose assemblies and fittings alone.
I'd seriously look for DanCo unit as they come equipped with a pump that runs off the back of the engine w/a belt and out of the way
Do you really want to fart around mowing with possibly a 1500 pound lawn mower??
That's about what my 149 weighs with a super steer axle that came from the same donor Cub as the P/S.
And all that loader rigamarole under the tractor will likely be in the way of the deck, mule drive and deck hanger ass'y
Build a dedicated loader rig, you will be amazed at how handy it will become by adding a light (think SNOW) bucket as well as a set of forks. and you won't be constantly removing and re-installing stuff every week or so.
Do you pump and the whole 9 yardshave any clue what it will cost to build one?
You will likely be looking at $400+ just for hose assemblies and fittings alone.
I'd seriously look for DanCo unit as they come equipped with a pump that runs off the back of the engine w/a belt and out of the way
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It is a function of the type & characteristics of the land one maintains, but I sure wouldn’t want to mow anything but wide-open relatively flat space with a loader also on the tractor.
Loader + mower is a less-common combination. Loaders often being dedicated loader-use machines.
But I sure dig your enthusiasm!
-C3
Loader + mower is a less-common combination. Loaders often being dedicated loader-use machines.
But I sure dig your enthusiasm!
-C3
tkhoffman
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Curious; Do the bearings in the front wheels hold up to such a heavy load?
Lots of larger ag tractors (3000 series) with front loaders have a hard time with front bearings.
mgonitzke
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No. Have to upgrade to trailer hubs and bearings to get them to last. The spindles also need reinforcement.
tkhoffman
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Thats what i figured. Then i saw dschwandt's pic. Looks like Stock front end.
It's a front super steer axle from a Cyclops w/1" spindles and it's handled everything I have thrown at it for the last 5 years or so with zero issues.
I have loaded a lot of dirt and gravel with the OEM bucket and quite a bit of fork lift work with it and use a larger light mat'ls bucket for snow.
Service the front bearings regularly and don't abuse the rig and it will serve you well.
I have loaded a lot of dirt and gravel with the OEM bucket and quite a bit of fork lift work with it and use a larger light mat'ls bucket for snow.
Service the front bearings regularly and don't abuse the rig and it will serve you well.
Mitchr97
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Thank you for the insite, I was looking into doing a super steer axle as well, but from an earlier 15 series so I don't raise the front end. I want to build a pf engineering loader and mount the front with a snow blower mule drive and mount the aux pump to that, I'm just not sure how I'd mount the rear. I also plan on building a weight rack on the back and I also have wheel weights already. Ive had a hard time finding pictures of how people have done these before. I was thinking about building tubes that bolt to the sides of the frame and have a tube slide through each rear beam to ouny the rear uprights and keep everything removable for when I want to use it every once in a while.
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